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Exclusive: US finalizing plans to send Patriot missile defense system to Ukraine
CNN ^ | 13-DEC-2022 | Barbara Starr

Posted on 12/13/2022 10:20:06 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas

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To: Salvey
This is nuts. The psychopaths running the country might as well declare all-out war with Russia, considering that we’re already involved in a proxy war with them.

Russians provided Houthis with anti-ship missiles which were fired at U.S. warships in the Red Sea, unsuccessfully. The rebels were probably assisted by Russian personnel when they fired them. When the U.S. complained, the Russians said that when they supply a weapon system they are not responsible for how it is used. The U.S. has cited that precedent when the Russians complain about U.S. weapons in Ukraine. The U.S. has supplied no weapons which have attacked Russia, only defensive weapons, such as the Patriot, that are only a threat to Russians who invade Ukraine.

21 posted on 12/13/2022 10:38:47 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Bad move.


22 posted on 12/13/2022 10:41:33 AM PST by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021? )
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To: SpeedyInTexas
Only a matter of time until Abrams and F-16s are delivered.

Then what, send our Army???
23 posted on 12/13/2022 10:42:43 AM PST by Shannon
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To: Regulator

“when does an American citizen get the right to obtain and operate a missile battery”

They don’t.

I don’t think thats what the 2nd Amendment was intended for.

If you want to shoot some people coming across the border, go for it. But expect to spend some time in jail.


24 posted on 12/13/2022 10:43:10 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Bad move.


25 posted on 12/13/2022 10:43:39 AM PST by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021? )
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To: packagingguy

Who is going to operate the Patriot Missile System?
= = =

Patriots?

By whose defn?

We can do a Putin, and free the J6 Patriots to send them to Ukraine to fight.


26 posted on 12/13/2022 10:44:08 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: Shannon

“Then what, send our Army???”

Our army isn’t needed. Ukraine needs weapons, not men.


27 posted on 12/13/2022 10:44:33 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: Shannon
Then what, send our Army???

Why? Ukrainians don't need more soldiers, they need weapons.

28 posted on 12/13/2022 10:45:19 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: tlozo

Great minds think alike.


29 posted on 12/13/2022 10:46:14 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

These demonic possessed Democrats are begging Putin to start a Nuclear War.


30 posted on 12/13/2022 10:47:46 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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Open borders for Ukraine. No one is illegal !


31 posted on 12/13/2022 10:48:28 AM PST by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: antidemoncrat

US didn’t use nuclear weapons when the USSR sent weapons to Vietnam and Korea.

Not only weapons, but Soviet pilots flew warplanes against Americans.


32 posted on 12/13/2022 10:50:02 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Russia should send hypersonic missiles to cuba

Could hit DC in 5 minutes!


33 posted on 12/13/2022 10:54:10 AM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88

“The (US) Air Force last week successfully tested a hypersonic AGM-183A missile off the coast of southern California — striking a target after reaching more than five times the speed of sound”

https://abcnews.go.com/US/air-force-successfully-tests-hypersonic-missile-5-times/story?id=95076398#:~:text=The%20Air%20Force%20last%20week,similar%20Chinese%20and%20Russian%20capabilities.


34 posted on 12/13/2022 10:57:08 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: Regulator

“Why should I have to wait for that...”

Well, there are only so many Patriot missiles to go around, we have to prioritize.

“who are you to grant permission?”

A taxpayer.

“Last I checked it’s in some pieces of paper currently enshrined in Philadelphia where they were drafted.”

Hey, if you want to build your own air defense missile system, nobody is stopping you. But you decided to beg the US government for one instead, so...


35 posted on 12/13/2022 10:59:00 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: SpeedyInTexas

“I don’t think thats what the 2nd Amendment was intended for”

Then we disagree fundamentally.

You can be assured that my Patriot ancestors in the Carolinas were not fighting for Monarchy 2.0. The guns they used came from the mantle over the fireplace and were no different from the ones the other guys were using.

As for shooting people coming over the border, you will note that a Patriot missile is a special class of anti-missile missiles, mainly for theater defense. Wouldn’t be particular useful against Sinaloa mafia guys unless they have their own Surface to Surface missiles.


36 posted on 12/13/2022 11:00:44 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: SpeedyInTexas
I lucked out. During my tour in Germany, my battalion’s mission was airbase defense. Had I been assigned to the battalion attached to the Big Red One, I would have spent 6-8 months a year in the red mud at Grafenwoehr.

During my first two years, I was the Army Liasion Officer in the Wing CP at Hahn Air Base. During AF alerts, I’d be there for the duration, usually 4 days straight, at the request of the Wing Commander. During my first alert, I offered the correct recommendation on an NBC input, after his “expert” made the wrong call, he went overboard on his recommendation, probably intimidated by the 5 full bird colonels surrounding him.

From that point on, I was the first one called when an NBC input was dropped. Much more comfortable than being outside in the elements.

37 posted on 12/13/2022 11:03:30 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It! lol)
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“Well, there are only so many Patriot missiles to go around, we have to prioritize”

Hah. That’s funny. I claim priority over Slavic gangsters and Khazarian gunmen.

“A taxpayer”

Just like me man. Therefore I hereby grant me the privilege.

“Hey, if you want to build your own air defense missile system, nobody is stopping you”

Actually that’s not true. You will face a thicket of barriers starting with Munitions Manufacturer licenses (includes intended customers), ITAR barriers, classification review, etc. For people who are capable of designing and manufacturing high accuracy air defense guidance systems and high acceleration propulsion systems to get them to their intended targets, there may be no technical limits but there are certainly a multitude of legal barriers. You can be assured that the current “administration” would be rather rabid about that.


38 posted on 12/13/2022 11:07:25 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

That heifer down in Gawgia!? That’s against the Hague & Geneva conventions, pretty sure.


39 posted on 12/13/2022 11:12:30 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Too bad they didn’t hang her sorry ass in 1972


40 posted on 12/13/2022 11:13:40 AM PST by Freedom4US
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