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To: elpadre

So now shutting down the churches, such allies!


2 posted on 12/12/2022 7:44:15 PM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: Karliner

Well - if you ignore some pretty damning evidence that these figures (and quite a few more in the local churches) have been actively supporting Russian troops via intelligence, safe harbor, and even financially.

So... yeah. Treat them like you would treat a business that was committing treason against the nation.

But also understand - when the so-called “Ukrainian Orthodox” split from the Russian Orthodox, it was nothing more than a name change. Bishops still beholden to the Russian patriarchs- and if one does just a little history study, you find that the Russian Orthodox aided and abetted the Soviets in a lot of pretty atrocious ways over the history of the Soviet Union - and still to this day are almost like their own oligarchy (its’ why Putin regularly bows before them with his little prohibitions that make him look almost Christain). He gives just enough to appease these powerful church figures.

When we often talk of Germany and the Nazis - and how certain major churches were complicity - even directly promoting Hitler’s actions (including the genocides)... The Russian Orthodox has been that same player for Russia (and prior - the USSR).

And the “Ukrainian Orthodox” church has been a major player in turmoil in Ukraine - and consistently supportive of the Russian puppet government officials (and presidents) that have come along.


6 posted on 12/12/2022 7:52:56 PM PST by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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To: Karliner

Russian spies have the right to attend church. They are just as Christian as Americans claiming to be Christians who turn their back on millions of Ukrainians


23 posted on 12/13/2022 6:16:18 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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