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‘Major War’ Between Russia and West Could Break Out over Ukraine, Warns NATO Chief
Breitbart ^ | 10 Dec 2022 | KURT ZINDULKA

Posted on 12/11/2022 6:55:36 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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Comment #61 Removed by Moderator

To: Tabusocial

Despite arguments for or against each side, this war/conflict, as with many others in history, was avoidable.

And that was and is what is truly trollish.


62 posted on 12/11/2022 9:07:04 PM PST by cranked
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To: PGR88
When Russia, Europe and America have finished destroying each-other due to neocon wet-dreams, China and India will be the two powers running the world.

The only one there in danger of a wrecked military is Russia. Europe and the U.S. are both getting the world's best possible field testing of all our new technology. And, when Russia has beaten itself into submission by trying to conquer Ukraine, Europe and the U.S. will be free to commit that many more resources to address China because Russia will no longer be a conventional threat.

64 posted on 12/11/2022 9:08:09 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Tabusocial

“And if your entire goal is to take over another country...”

Have you read the Russian SMO, cause it is growing ever so apparent to me that you have not.

There was never any “goal” to take over Ukraine.


66 posted on 12/11/2022 9:09:04 PM PST by cranked
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To: Tabusocial

Your source or evidences countering anything I have said are where?


67 posted on 12/11/2022 9:09:37 PM PST by cranked
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To: DesertRhino
Nobody on our side has any kind of reverse gear, and Russia now sees an existential threat.

Realistically, the worst case scenario for Russia is that it gets thrown completely out of Ukraine, which puts it right back at the borders it had until 2014. It would have no problem continue to exist at that size, just as it basically from 1991-2014.

That's not an existential threat. That's just a threat to dreams of hegemony. An existential threat to Russia exists only within their own propaganda.

69 posted on 12/11/2022 9:12:31 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Tabusocial

Can you and NATO beat yourselves out a wet paper bag?

Or you all too busy playing RISK and thinking that victory comes with taking territory?

How’s that Nazi Freeland war bond drive for the Nazi-infested Kyiv government in Ukraine coming along?


70 posted on 12/11/2022 9:14:36 PM PST by cranked
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To: cranked

Well, you made a really excellent case that NATO never presented a military threat to Russia, which is something everyone including Putin already knew. That was just a lame excuse for a territory grab.


71 posted on 12/11/2022 9:14:56 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Tabusocial

As are you, Grand Champion RISK player.

Get back with me when you can provide sources and evidences....


73 posted on 12/11/2022 9:16:27 PM PST by cranked
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Your counter evidences and sources are where, peddler.

Canada going broke.
US going broke.
Europe going broke.
UK going broke.

Get back with me.


75 posted on 12/11/2022 9:20:25 PM PST by cranked
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To: Tabusocial

Not looking good for NATO...

‘In Germany, they said that the army lacks almost everything’
https://azgeopolitics.com/?p=3727

More trouble for NATO....

‘French army: “Military stocks have generally disappeared...”
https://www.lopinion.fr/international/armee-francaise-les-stocks-militaires-ont-globalement-disparu#.Y5HhdRimcms.twitter

Even more troubles....

‘US military rated as ‘weak,’ may not be able to win one war, as tensions grow with China, Russia’
https://nypost.com/2022/10/18/us-military-rated-as-weak-may-not-be-able-to-win-one-war-as-tensions-grow-with-china-russia/

‘Ukraine War Shows the US Military Isn’t Ready for War With China’
https://www.aei.org/op-eds/ukraine-war-shows-the-us-military-isnt-ready-for-war-with-china/

‘Weapon System Sustainment:
Aircraft Mission Capable Goals Were Generally Not Met and Sustainment Costs Varied by Aircraft’
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-23-106217

‘If you think the US is ready for a conventional war with Russia or China, think again’
https://sonar21.com/if-you-think-the-united-states-is-ready-for-a-conventional-war-with-russia-or-china-think-again/
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Go back to playing RISK.


76 posted on 12/11/2022 9:25:14 PM PST by cranked
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To: cranked

Again, all you’re doing is making the case that NATO presented no threat to Russia, which makes that a bogus excuse for invading Ukraine.


78 posted on 12/11/2022 9:28:35 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Tabusocial

Scurry away.

When you get around to providing counter sources and evidences, let me know.

Otherwise, RISK is the best option for you and others.


79 posted on 12/11/2022 9:29:24 PM PST by cranked
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