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Ten Myths about US Aid to Ukraine
Hudson Institute ^ | Octrober 20, 2022 | Luke Coffey

Posted on 12/11/2022 7:27:44 AM PST by Widget Jr

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To: Widget Jr

“For Americans who believe in strong and secure national borders, the primacy of national sovereignty, and the right to self-defense, support for Ukraine in the face of Russian aggression is natural.”

That sentence right there is downright hilarious.


21 posted on 12/11/2022 8:07:04 AM PST by cld51860 (We’re doomed.)
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To: Lurker

Why don’t they defend our own borders? This sound like democrat “fact checkers”, which is just another way of making denials of points of debate and claiming it to be “facts” in efforts to shut down debate. They’ll “fact check” and claim “there is no evidence” in the face of evidence, and I call that gas lighting.


22 posted on 12/11/2022 8:10:14 AM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: Chunga85
Russia's stocks of operational weapons reserves were vastly overrated.

The numbers of tanks, APC's, artillery, etc. claimed as reserve sticks could not possibly have been properly maintained by the number of troops they have, especially given the virtually non-existent numbers of actual drilling reservists.

23 posted on 12/11/2022 8:10:51 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Widget Jr

Absolute hogwash….true yellow journalism.

Just change Ukraine to Iraq or Afghanistan….and read again!


24 posted on 12/11/2022 8:15:49 AM PST by GreenCell
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To: Widget Jr

Myth 11. Ukrainians are the good guys.


25 posted on 12/11/2022 8:17:30 AM PST by MrRelevant
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To: cld51860

Saying so does not make it so. We are supposed to believe the grafters and grifters are not absent from this boondoggle? Pure as the first mountain snow. And our leaders have really made a public case for wanton spending run amuck?
This admin has done nothing to make the case and probably cannot. Pedo Joe or Mayorkas? Crooks and deceiver pied pipers.
Personally some assistance might be warranted. Nothing of the present magnitude. Depleting our own stocks of war supplies. Of course the puzzled pentagon is totally corrupt and an unreliable dishonest info source.
So there we are folks. Continuing to fork over your grandkids financial future at the behest of known liars without a whimper.


26 posted on 12/11/2022 8:22:51 AM PST by whistleduck
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To: Widget Jr

Under your hero Biden we have been invaded by 5 million illegal aliens in just under two years and you attempt to lecture us about Americans who believe in borders but only for the Ukraine? GFY.


27 posted on 12/11/2022 8:27:26 AM PST by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat)
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To: SteelPSUGOP

You are just another neocon, refugee noob from DU. Go home nutjob.


28 posted on 12/11/2022 8:29:34 AM PST by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat)
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To: GreenCell
Just change Ukraine to Iraq or Afghanistan….and read again!

You've got it backwards. Ukraine is Russia's Iraq or Afghanistan, except far more bloodthirsty/costly. Those are Russian troops and Russian formations bleeding out in Ukraine, not American. And their cost is far higher than what we're paying to oppose them.

29 posted on 12/11/2022 8:30:30 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Alter Kaker

Send the military aid to Florida...
They can sell it and use the cash for Americans


30 posted on 12/11/2022 8:30:34 AM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: SteelPSUGOP
#1: Words on paper about accountability don't mean much by themselves, especially when the US army routinely fails audits. Good point.

#2: The US and Europe paying for the war and supplying weapons and equipment while Ukraine fights is working. The Russian army is getting ground down at relatively low cost and risk to the US. Russia simply can not replace its losses in equipment and experienced personnel like Ukraine can. Going all out is not needed and hopefully can be avoided.

31 posted on 12/11/2022 8:30:38 AM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“Russia’s stocks of operational weapons reserves were vastly overrated”

Just because you believe everything you are told by “Fox and Friends” doesn’t make it true. Soon, refugees will be flooding Europe from the US backed former state of Ukraine.

There, they can all think about who staged the coup in Maidan. They can think about who interfered with Minsk II and they can think about who it was that destroyed the gas pipelines.

And they can think about who has been sitting on the opposite side of the planet, slouched over on their sofas, watching “Fox and Friends” cheering on another war that benefits no one.


32 posted on 12/11/2022 8:31:35 AM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: Widget Jr
Dear Luke,

Perhaps you've mistaken the sight of a recipe for proof it was followed?

As for evidence the "oversight" provisions were not followed:

-Purchase of vacation homes and luxury cars by senior Ukraine officials.

-Sale of arms to rogue nations.

33 posted on 12/11/2022 8:32:52 AM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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To: Widget Jr

Thanks for posting.


34 posted on 12/11/2022 8:33:38 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin; Fairhairedboy

Chin, your arrival was predicted by Fairhairedboy. Neocon wars are your other passion when you’re not pushing for the Covid clot-shot.


35 posted on 12/11/2022 8:33:39 AM PST by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat)
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Thank you for referencing that article Widget Jr.. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

I know that we've all grown up with an unconstitutionally big, post-FDR era federal government and have consequently been indoctrinated to think that everything that the feds do must somehow be constitutional.

But not not only is the term "foreign aid" not found in the amendable Constitution (aiding the enemy is referenced), Justice Joseph Story had clarified that foreign aid is constitutionally undefensible.

So the myth that foreign aid is constitutional should arguably have been at the top of the provided list imo.

36 posted on 12/11/2022 8:43:40 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Alter Kaker

Oh, and for the record, Florida has gotten 1.5 billion. Estimated damage is between 35 to 50 billion... but that’s ok.... the world capital of human trafficking and money laundering needs our money more than we do


37 posted on 12/11/2022 8:44:17 AM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: Widget Jr

How much of this was fed to your media source via the Biden Staff or the DOJ? It sure sounds like you and Biden agree. It sure will be tough for you neo’s to live this down. Some of US will not allow you to just throw up your hands and walk away. You’ve been Brandoned.


38 posted on 12/11/2022 8:48:38 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! He will win 2024!)
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To: Widget Jr

Give him credit. He didn’t use any of the très chic liberal terms “democracy,” “disenfranchised,” or “election denier” in this writing.


39 posted on 12/11/2022 8:50:56 AM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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To: WMarshal
I believe in securing the U.S. border as well. But that has absolutely nothing to do with Ukraine because it is a deliberate policy choice by the Biden Administration to not secure the border. So they weren't securing the border before the Russian invasion, and they wouldn't secure it if it ended tomorrow. And that has nothing to do with money.

Unrelated issues.

40 posted on 12/11/2022 8:53:07 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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