Also, it's a shame that adults dress like slovenly children now. I do gig work during the winter months to stay busy (can't snowmobile and ski every day) and so drive into the main office of one of the companies I contract with once or twice a week. It's largely empty because even the upper management works from home. But what few employees are there look like they are dressed for drinking beers at the sports bar. I gave up wearing a tie even tho' it feels like I'm naked every time I walk through those revolving doors.
Ties are joke from my perspective. An outdated stupid ribbon men use to wear around their necks. I look at ties nowadays as outdated, archaic fashion nonsense. I don’t want to look like my head is popping out of gift or package tied with a ribbon. All I wore for years was just sports coat, as casual as possible and 98 percent of the time, never a stinking tie.