Posted on 11/25/2022 8:46:18 PM PST by NeverCheney
Former Trump Justice Department head William Barr, in the course of reiterating his strong preference that his party nominate a less deranged presidential candidate next time, expressed a fear that has been in wide circulation: If defeated in the primary, Donald Trump “will burn the whole house down by leading ‘his people’ out of the GOP.”
One version of this is that Trump will either form a third party or simply refuse to endorse another Republican, thereby dooming his party’s chances. Those of us considering the question from a less friendly standpoint than Barr — I consider the Republican Party an unsalvageable fanatical proto-authoritarian formation — would very much like it to be true. Indeed, I have seen commentators treat it as something like a certainty that would doom a Ron DeSantis or any other non-Trump alternative.
But I think this idea misunderstands both Trump and the incentive structure of the Republican Party.
It is true that a world in which Trump has lost a primary to DeSantis is a world in which Trump feels very angry with DeSantis. But DeSantis is not the only person Trump feels angry with. Trump has spent the past several years simmering with anger at Joe Biden. And while a contested primary would make Trump resent DeSantis more than he does now, it’s hardly certain that it would make him hate DeSantis more than he hates Biden.
More important, it would be uncharacteristic for Trump to allow his grudges to get in the way of his clear self-interest. Trump does lash out wildly at anybody who disrespects him, but he also turns on a dime and makes friends with his former enemies. You can see this pattern in the way he lashed out at the likes of Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio before reconciling
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Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.What the GOP are in reality is collaborators. We have not had two political parties in a good while.
— Communist goal #15
I believe all this is crap based on media. I don’t even think DeSantis will be running in 2024, but will fill his obligation to the people of Florida.
I sure would like to know why exactly I should listen to a guy who wrote for The New Republic.
You can see this pattern in the way he lashed out at the likes of Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio before reconciling.
IF-if-if-if-if-if
... but Ron DeSantis isn’t IN the race.
Donald Trump (he of the THREE brass balls!) HAS in fact announced his candidacy.
>> DeSantis should have waited until 2028.
Somehow, I missed his announcement for 2024.
Is he running?
I agree!
DeSantis has betrayed Trump. He’s shown zero empathy for what happened at Mar-a-Lago and showed ZERO anything about January 6. Why didn’t he come out swinging for Trump knowing fraud took place? Trump saved his butt and pulled him over the finish line against a homosexual drugged up black candidate.
For Desantis to even consider running against Trump after all Trump has been put through doing the job and the last two years afterwards, I wouldn’t vote for him anyway.
Like the rest of us ingrates, we should be backing him to the end.
Just how fragile are you Trump acolytes? What a bunch of snowflakes. What battle??
“The author has one thing right:..”
The author has nothing right.
What? Mashed potatoes with no gravy?
Democratic-Republican Party (in part)
Following the election, the Democratic-Republicans split into two groups: the National Republicans, who became the nucleus of the Whig Party in the 1830s, were led by Adams and Clay, while the Democratic-Republicans were organized by Martin Van Buren, the future eighth president (1837–41), and led by Jackson.
I do thank you for the mashed potatoes.
I think a Trump/DeSantis ticket would make the left soil themselves.
Maybe I missed it ..but what did Barr do..when he worked for Trump?
Hate to be the downer but the 2024 results are baked in. PA and Mi are now in full control of socialist tyrants who will make certain VBM generates the result they want. Best our side can get in EVS is 263-267.
conservatives in those states should consider moving out before the socialist overlords fundamentally transform these former swing states into a clone of the Peoples Republic of New York
Option two if they decide to stand it is vital to focus on local races like school board town council assembly jusges etc to put sand in socialist machine gears
They played this card in 2016. They kept badgering Trump to agree to support the eventual nominee and demanded a loyalty pact. Trump eventually agreed, but then Kasich and Jeb reneged on the deal when Trump won the nomination, while Cruz attacked him at the convention. Not to mention how our “friends” like Chris Christie and Mitch McConnell have behaved.
This isn’t to say DeSantis is in that group at all (I think Ron is awesome), but if I’m Trump I’m not playing into any loyalty pacts after that. The establishment expects those pledges are a one way street.
Elected republicans go after Trump all the time. If DeSantis somehow wins(he’s a long shot), the republican party would continue to go after Trump. Look at the J6 committee, two so-called republicans sat on that committee and helped the democrats every way that they could. After Trump was elected republicans controlled The House and Senate. Both bodies had investigations into Trump and supported The Mueller witch hunt that they knew was untrue.
Yep.
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