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To: RoosterRedux

Hoping at least Disney divests some of their acquired properties as they circle the drain.

Their “skill” at buying up and “magically” turning previously successful franchises(like the Marvel characters and Star Wars) into trash needs to end.

Sure, most of the people in charge of those franchises were lefty (like Lucas), but they were aware that, business-wise, there are some lines you don’t cross. Current Disney management is all about full steam ahead on the agenda at any cost and taking a dump on the fanbases as being too “white/male/conservative”.


14 posted on 11/23/2022 4:30:10 AM PST by Southern Magnolia
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To: Southern Magnolia
There are the old-fashioned Lefties and then there are the Wokesters.

The Wokesters make up this giant brainwashed, hypnotized "Borg-like" organism. The Woke is a collective that consists of individuals who have given up their individual identities to become a part of the collective identity. This is an organism (a "mass formation") that has powerful totalitarian urges/goals. It seeks to take over and dominate (and, yes, assimilate) all individuals and groups that it comes into contact with.

16 posted on 11/23/2022 5:02:41 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Southern Magnolia

You should have used Stan Lee or Jim Henson as examples of otherwise leftist people who created current Disney-owned franchises rather than Lucas. George Lucas if anything was closer to the full steam ahead model like with Iger or Berlanti. In fact, Lucas if anything managed to turn his own franchise, filmwise at least, into trash BEFORE the sale to Disney. That’s actually part of the reason why the Prequels had a controversial reception, same goes for ROTJ with the Ewoks.

As a case in point, Lucas actually deliberately modeled the heroes (not just the Ewoks, but if the 1973 story notes are to be believed, even the Rebel Alliance itself) after the Vietcong and the Empire on America, during the height of the Vietnam War, and was so shameless in pushing that view by ROTJ that Nixon himself, the template for Palpatine, actually referenced it in his book No More Vietnams. Yes, Hollywood was generally anti-Vietnam War, and they did tend to paint the American soldiers in a less than stellar light back then, but many of them, including even the likes of Oliver Stone and James Cameron with Aliens, avoided depicting the Vietcong/their analogues as good guys (the former still emphasized the Vietcong as brutal and horrific threats, even if Bob Barnes was the actual main antagonist, and the latter’s analogue to the Vietcong in the Vietnam-themes, the Xenomorphs, were the direct threat to the protagonists and the definite antagonistic force). George Lucas is probably one of the few who actually went that far. Jim Henson deliberately avoided commentating on Vietnam with the Muppets, and Stan Lee and some other comic scribes for both DC and Marvel, while not fond of Nixon (Darkseid was partly modeled after Nixon), at least avoided depicting Vietnam in a bad light, even had some of the superheroes try to aid the war effort for America at the time, not to mention some of the villains like Ten Rings were deliberately modeled after Vietcong and ChiComs.


30 posted on 11/25/2022 7:55:19 AM PST by otness_e
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