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Five of Disney’s Biggest Woke Fails Under Fired CEO Bob Chapek (Iger more "Woke" than Chapek?)
breitbart.com ^ | DAVID NG

Posted on 11/23/2022 2:30:26 AM PST by RoosterRedux

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To: RoosterRedux

Once a great company.
Now just another run of the mill woke company.


21 posted on 11/23/2022 5:21:49 AM PST by tennmountainman ( Less Lindell CONS, More AZ Style Audits)
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To: No.6
You can always tell manufactured thought by its uniformity.

Perhaps that is true but the inverse isn't. People and/or groups which exhibit uniformity of thought are not necessarily members of or influenced by an organized manufacturer of that manner of thought. Many (perhaps most) movements that simply evolve have great uniformity of thought.

Collectivism itself has been around since the start of human history and even adherents to that idea who are not part of or are being influenced by a collectivist organization exhibit uniformity of thought.

I have family members who are devout collectivists but have absolutely no idea where the idea came from and are not influenced by any "organizing" group.

22 posted on 11/23/2022 5:28:23 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: No.6
Organic movements quarrel within themselves, because they’re made up of real individuals who have differing opinions.

Very interesting point.

A normal movement would argue and disagree with itself.

But not those who become "mass formations." They become self-hypnotized and develop into a kind of cult. Desmet makes the point that some groups become "mass formations" by living in an echo chamber...they become hypnotized and individual members of that group give up their individual identities for a group identity.

We see that in the Woke movement. These people seem hypnotized and completely unwilling to even consider opposing ideas.

We see this kind of mass formation developing in Germany as early as the 1920s. The Nazis were able to eventually get in front of it, but the group was developing long before Hitler started gaining power.

23 posted on 11/23/2022 5:37:40 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: No.6; All
As an aside, we're dealing with "theories" in order to try to understand what the hell the Woke movement is. We can't actually prove any of these theories.

Even Prof Desmet's theory of "mass formations" is still just a well-developed theory.

Here's a thread I posted earlier on a video interview of Prof Desmet by Tucker Carlson. It's a very interesting discussion of this subject:

Mattias Desmet about Mass Formation and modern society (1 hr video interview of Belgian psychologist Mattias Desmet by Tucker Carlson)

24 posted on 11/23/2022 5:47:56 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Close. His father was the one who was adopted. His mother was also an Arab. So Mitchell is Arab by blood. I did NOT mean to imply he was Muslim, as I later realized people might take it. It was more of a “Huh, I didn’t know this” which I realize I attached to a condemnation


25 posted on 11/23/2022 6:08:25 AM PST by dangus
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To: RoosterRedux

We’re visiting the daughter and her husband for Thanksgiving. They have the Disney+ channel. I scrolled thru the channel’s offerings...nothing I wanted to watch. Between the animated kid’s movies and the Marvel action movies with many of the loudmouth lefty actors...there was nothing of interest.


26 posted on 11/23/2022 6:39:36 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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I had to look it up. And yes, I got him confused with his father.

Was his mother an Arab? Her name sounds Arab but she is described as Lebanese.

27 posted on 11/23/2022 6:45:49 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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Well, “Arab” is a tough term, because Arabs conquered the whole of the Middle and Near East, and imposed their language and culture throughout. I read he was Arab, so either his biography is shockingly inaccurate or he does identify as Arab. I know many Maronites reject the label, like an Irishman might reject the label, “British”: More than merely inaccurate, insulting. So maybe his Dad was Maronite and his Mom Arab? On the other hand, there are lots of people on the Island of Eire who actually do have British ancestry.


28 posted on 11/23/2022 10:57:19 AM PST by dangus
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To: RoosterRedux

corporate fascism at its finest, I truly hope Disney goes broke and takes ABC and ESPN with it. Iger you dont get to decide right and wrong for me.


29 posted on 11/23/2022 12:05:01 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!you)
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To: Southern Magnolia

You should have used Stan Lee or Jim Henson as examples of otherwise leftist people who created current Disney-owned franchises rather than Lucas. George Lucas if anything was closer to the full steam ahead model like with Iger or Berlanti. In fact, Lucas if anything managed to turn his own franchise, filmwise at least, into trash BEFORE the sale to Disney. That’s actually part of the reason why the Prequels had a controversial reception, same goes for ROTJ with the Ewoks.

As a case in point, Lucas actually deliberately modeled the heroes (not just the Ewoks, but if the 1973 story notes are to be believed, even the Rebel Alliance itself) after the Vietcong and the Empire on America, during the height of the Vietnam War, and was so shameless in pushing that view by ROTJ that Nixon himself, the template for Palpatine, actually referenced it in his book No More Vietnams. Yes, Hollywood was generally anti-Vietnam War, and they did tend to paint the American soldiers in a less than stellar light back then, but many of them, including even the likes of Oliver Stone and James Cameron with Aliens, avoided depicting the Vietcong/their analogues as good guys (the former still emphasized the Vietcong as brutal and horrific threats, even if Bob Barnes was the actual main antagonist, and the latter’s analogue to the Vietcong in the Vietnam-themes, the Xenomorphs, were the direct threat to the protagonists and the definite antagonistic force). George Lucas is probably one of the few who actually went that far. Jim Henson deliberately avoided commentating on Vietnam with the Muppets, and Stan Lee and some other comic scribes for both DC and Marvel, while not fond of Nixon (Darkseid was partly modeled after Nixon), at least avoided depicting Vietnam in a bad light, even had some of the superheroes try to aid the war effort for America at the time, not to mention some of the villains like Ten Rings were deliberately modeled after Vietcong and ChiComs.


30 posted on 11/25/2022 7:55:19 AM PST by otness_e
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