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Low BART ridership could lead to drastic measures like cutting weekend service
SF Gate ^ | November 22, 2022 | By Silas Valentino

Posted on 11/22/2022 11:03:05 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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21 posted on 11/22/2022 11:43:18 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: gitmo

Be careful, Spencer Elden, who appeared on the cover of the Nirvana Album naked as a baby, is always looking to sue somebody because of it. His latest lawsuit for ‘damages’ was dismissed January of this year by a New York judge.


22 posted on 11/22/2022 12:07:03 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Jim Noble

Yep, as soon as the Merced to Bakersfield section is completed, the money will start rolling in!


23 posted on 11/22/2022 12:08:15 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: lee martell

I loved making friends feel old by telling them “Do you remember the baby from the Nirvana album? He’s old enough to drink now.”


24 posted on 11/22/2022 12:15:16 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Soon the January 6 protesters will be held (without trial or bail) longer than Jefferson Davis was.)
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To: Bernard

The BART is very much like the DC area subway, except that it lacks ridership.

That was true well over a decade ago.

The SF Muni subway had much higher ridership as I remember.


25 posted on 11/22/2022 12:20:53 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: allendale
These transportation systems have all been losing huge amounts of money and have been subsidized by Biden bucks approved by the Democrat controlled Congress.

The firebox has never covered the expenses of mass transit. In the best of times, fares paid by riders covered less than one-third of expenses for BART, MUNI, and other public transit in the SF Bay Area. The rest of the funding comes from taxpayers at local, state and federal levels. It's always been a losing game for mass public transit. The powers-that-be want to force people to give up private ownership of cars in order to force them to pay for public transit. Not that public transit will get any better; it won't.

26 posted on 11/22/2022 12:23:46 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Mr. Jeeves

The San Diego light rail system had good ridership when I was last in California about 12 years ago.

Perhaps the Phoenix heat is too much or the Phoenix area is spread out too much for light rail.


27 posted on 11/22/2022 12:27:35 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: roadcat

The commuting distances in California are often huge.

Given 50 minutes one way in a car or 75 minutes by public transit, the car wins big time.


28 posted on 11/22/2022 12:30:04 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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The BART is very much like the DC area subway, except that it lacks ridership.

BART in the SF Bay Area and the DC area subway used the same contractors to build the trains. The trains were built at the same time and were identical. I've ridden both. Both have identical types of riders in some areas of transit that make you wish you hadn't gotten on the train.

29 posted on 11/22/2022 12:31:31 PM PST by roadcat
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Given 50 minutes one way in a car or 75 minutes by public transit, the car wins big time.

The exception is transit close to the urban centers. Because of traffic jams and lack of parking, it's quicker and easier to take BART into downtown centers. Hwys 101 and 280 are often jammed into SF, same is true of Hwy 880 near Oakland. However, if your destination is not near the downtown subway stations then a lot of time is wasted traversing the city to get to your destination - that's when we use the car and battle the traffic jams.

We've pretty much given up on using BART due to the filthy conditions. We won't sit on the seats because of the vagrants who might be leaving filth and fleas. My wife always immediately washes her clothes after using BART or MUNI.

30 posted on 11/22/2022 12:40:59 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In Seattle the felt it wasn’t equitable to make people pay. So they stopped enforcing this....now most ride for free and they are broke too.


31 posted on 11/22/2022 12:53:10 PM PST by consult
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Just park them and house the homeless in them ... solves two problems at once. All the SF’s can just drive their EVs to work and play.


32 posted on 11/22/2022 1:21:58 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
BART is just another one of the LIBERAL LEFT'S BAD IDEAS that has SCREWED the TAXPAYERS royally.


33 posted on 11/22/2022 3:19:58 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That’s the way to do it...cut service and raise fares!

It’s how socialists run a railroad, or anything else.


34 posted on 11/22/2022 3:23:05 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

banning gas cars should help


35 posted on 11/22/2022 11:03:27 PM PST by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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