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To: kabar

What is the exit strategy?

When Russia is out of Ukraine and in NATO ad EU.


Why are we spending billions in Ukraine?

its going to good cause and using material meant to destroy the Orc military which it is, and cheaply at that.

But why are you complaining about pocket change and on a military thread, unless you are a troll.


56 posted on 11/22/2022 2:11:52 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

This war has been going on since 2014 ever since the US and NATO engineered a coup of the elected Ukrainian government. This resulted in the separatist movement in the Donbas and the Russian annexation of Crimea.

An open-ended commitment to Ukraine is nonsense and unsustainable. So if Ukraine wants to negotiate a settlement with Russia that includes Russia retaining Crimea and a promise not to join NATO, the US should reject such a settlement? You are proposing conditions that Ukraine isn’t even demanding.

Russia shares a 1,500 mile border with Ukraine. It is not going away. In the meantime, 40% of Ukraine’s electrical grid has been knocked out as winter descends on the country. All of the death and destruction going on is confined to the territory of Ukraine. More than 5 million Ukrainians have fled the country and another 10 million are displaced internally. This war is only 10 months long. The Russians are in the process of destroying Ukraine’s infrastructure. The hardships for the Ukrainian people are only beginning.

Have you ever been involved in a war? Fighting a proxy war until the last Ukrainian is cynical and inhumane. This war could have been avoided.

Pocket change? We have spent trillions of dollars in Afghanistan and Iraq. We are now involved in another endless war that will weaken us. We have also entered into a new Cold War that will result in a global political realignment. Most of the world is ignoring the sanctions, including some members of NATO. Europe is suffering economically due to high energy and food prices. Civil unrest is happening in some countries. And the dollar is under attack as the world’s reserve currency. The BRIC countries are expanding in numbers.

Americans are also suffering from the war in Ukraine with higher fertilizer, food, and energy costs. When the Reps take over the House, spending in Ukraine will come under greater scrutiny and accountability. Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Time to end this war.


57 posted on 11/22/2022 2:51:50 PM PST by kabar
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