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To: DesertRhino
In decades past, with paper ballots, we knew the results the same night, at the very worst in unusual cases, the next morning. Now in the information age, it takes weeks, all kinds of problems happen, and last but not least, the concept of a secret ballot is destroyed. If they can call you down to cure your ballot, that means they can identify a person to a vote. How do you think that works out in minority neighborhoods? Or in union areas? It’s a subtle message, we can call you down to fix your ballot.

With paper ballots hand counted on election night there were no multi-million dollar contracts for voting machines that cheat. IMHO, absentee voting is a privilege, not a right. With all of the mail in ballot fraud, mail in ballots shouldn't be completely anonymous. If you want your vote to be confidential, vote in person. Mail in ballots could have a code so that the voter isn't obvious to the naked eye, but identifiable so that when the cheaters commingle fraudulent ballots with the valid ones, the fraud can be removed.
9 posted on 11/20/2022 6:40:35 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Dr. Franklin

There should not be mail ins at all.

You are sending them blindly into a corrupt machine, in this case, Maricopa County. They might not even be counted. They might be counted wrong. They might be swapped out. Or, if they are the right vote, they might be counted twice.

Mail in is inherently rife with fraud opportunities.


13 posted on 11/20/2022 6:51:36 PM PST by Adder (ALL Democrats are the enemy. NO QUARTER!!)
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To: Dr. Franklin

Agree. But as you say, mail in should be rare. Now it is the rule and mass mail ballots go out like 3rd class mail from Harbor Freight.
The concept of secret ballots is dead in America.


17 posted on 11/20/2022 7:07:04 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Dr. Franklin
Mail in ballots could have a code so that the voter isn't obvious to the naked eye, but identifiable so that when the cheaters commingle fraudulent ballots with the valid ones, the fraud can be removed.

The ballots are real. The voters are fake.

When you have voter rolls that are 180% of the eligible population in a county, you have plenty of margin for cheating your way to victory in the "election". When a single church or a single homeless shelter registers thousands of "new voters" (which actually happened in this State), where do you suppose all those mail-in ballots are delivered?

Things were bad enough when there were only 30 "voters" registered at the same address. We are way beyond that simple trick nowadays.

Of course, there are the old favorites - like harvesting the ballots from dementia patients in a nursing home.

Democrats are way better at identifying loose ballots and harvesting them, than the Republicans will ever be. There are simply too many loose ballots in the system, and this is intentional. Democrats create them.

Mail-in ballots already have an identification code on the outside envelope which is supposed to identify the voter. It is supposed to be checked against a database of registered voters when the ballot is received.

I wonder who audits that system? Oh, right. It's the Democrats who are running the system. Nothing to see here, move on.

I would propose that all voter registrations be voided, and prospective votes must re-register at a government office after showing appropriate personal identification. Registrations should expire after nine years or after three years of not voting. New registrations should not be valid for ballot issue for 30 days after the registration date.

Mail-in voting might actually work without suspicions of fraud under those circumstances. Except the mail system should not be used. Drop boxes, placed in government offices, under continuous surveillance, might work.

My last ballot was placed in a drop box in front of a police station. It was the best I could do since this State has gone to 100% mail-in voting. I am even reasonably sure that the ballot was counted, since I got an e-mail message the next day thanking me for my civic participation. I am uncertain as to how many imaginary people outvoted me.

21 posted on 11/20/2022 7:35:29 PM PST by flamberge (Those who pose the greatest danger to you are living within five miles of you.)
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