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To: NorseViking; CatHerd
This isn't even the first time Ukraine has tried to involve Poland to the point where Poland had to clap back: let's recall that, from much earlier in the conflict back in March, Ukraine's government trumpeted an alleged plan to allow their fighter pilots to take off from NATO bases in Poland, only to be swiftly denied.

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Over the course of a confusing 48 hours, the EU announced it had brokered an arrangement for member states to allow Ukrainian pilots to start flying their used Russian fighter planes, only to have those countries deny there was any such deal even as Kyiv trumpeted the impending arrival of the jets.

The dissolution of the deal comes as European countries lined up Monday to announce new weapons packages for Ukraine, from anti-armor and anti-air rockets to artillery and medical supplies.

But the announcement Sunday by EU security chief Josep Borrell that fighter jets were also on their way appeared to be a game-changer for European military assistance. Borrell was forced to walk his pronouncement back somewhat by Monday, acknowledging that any transfers wouldn’t come from the EU itself, but would instead be donated “bilaterally” by individual EU countries.

Soon after, a Ukrainian government official told POLITICO their country had sent pilots to Poland to pick up the jets and the Ukrainian parliament announced that the planes from Slovakia, Bulgaria and Poland would soon be on their way. But by Tuesday, Bulgaria and Slovakia said there was no deal to send fighters, and the Polish president, appearing at a Polish air base alongside NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg, said no planes would be flying any time soon.

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101 posted on 11/17/2022 9:06:07 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Of course the Ukrainians want NATO involved. And will try just about any trick in the book to suck in NATO. That’s a given. As for this incident, was it deliberately aimed at Poland or was it an oopsie the Ukrainians tried to turn to their advantage? Either is possible, as far as I can see.


106 posted on 11/17/2022 9:18:35 AM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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