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Zelensky sees ‘beginning of end’ of war with Russia during Kherson tour
The Hill ^ | 11/14/2022 | Brad Dress

Posted on 11/14/2022 6:15:27 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: canuck_conservative; cranked

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/jun/26/concerns-india-back-door-into-europe-for-russian-oil

That took ten seconds

Don’t be so lazy and uninformed

Plenty more articles like that


21 posted on 11/14/2022 8:32:14 AM PST by wardaddy (Sound and Fury Republic now home to more than a few globalists who really love the mainstream media )
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To: canuck_conservative

It is actually ok as a PARTIAL solution if India and China buy Russian gas and oil for cheap and resell it to Europe.

For one thing, that ties up even more transport capacity which is a growing problem for Russia at present*, and about to get a lot worse when the transport sanctions kick in on Dec. 5. Transport to India is particularly thorny as the oil and gas ALL has to go by tankers in short supply.

*Transport capacity is inversely proportional to transport time, averaging about 6x to India in the case of shipments by sea. Or, put another way, to send a given quantity of oil to India by sea instead of Europe requires 6x as many tankers. Not only do they not exist (and aren’t something Pooty can pull out of a hat!), “tankers available” is about to become “tankers available not under effective EU / US control.”

By China’s own numbers, the “max profits” are not doing much to aid their own ailing economy.

But let’s say this round-about supply to Europe is significant: Then the EU still gets oil and gas, and the revenues to Russia are dropping because the prices from Russia are “for cheap”. That’s the point: The EU and US don’t want to cause a worldwide energy shortage & further inflation, or internal unrest, they want to drop Russian energy revenues. After going about it most bass-ackwardly** up until now, with a lot of self-inflicted harm, they are finally getting it 1/2 (or maybe 1/3) right.**

**The West still has not competently addressed the greater supply problem, and the lousy results (mostly) of the 2022 elections in the US likely mean a lot more unnecessarily high energy prices and stiff inflation for some time.


22 posted on 11/14/2022 9:02:23 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: BenLurkin

Suits me fine. Europe steps up its own defences, doesn’t get dragged into any more neocon adventures,

And if Russia starts salami slicing its way into Alaska that’s entirely going to be the USA’s problem, not ours.

Retaliation by the USA would invite a direct state of war between two nuclear states with Russia calling on its strengthening strategic partnerships... How will that work out if the USA chose the cheap option of being stuck on its own, having opted out of the one multilateral agreement that gives it a strategic advantage over Russia right now?

That’s the conundrum. America has few true allies in the world and they’re in NATO as much to America’s benefit as their own. Leave NATO, Russia or China only has one front to fight on.


23 posted on 11/14/2022 9:07:34 AM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: canuck_conservative

Slight edit:
It is actually ok as a PARTIAL solution if India and China buy Russian gas and oil for cheap and resell it to Europe.

For one thing, that ties up even more transport capacity which is a growing problem for Russia at present*, and about to get a lot worse when the transport sanctions kick in on Dec. 5. Transport to India is particularly thorny as the oil and gas ALL has to go by tankers in short supply.

*Transport capacity is inversely proportional to transport time, averaging about 6x to India in the case of shipments by sea. Or, put another way, to send a given quantity of oil to India by sea instead of to Europe requires 6x as many tankers. Not only do they not exist (and aren’t something Pooty can pull out of a hat!), “tankers available” is about to become “tankers available not effectively under EU / US control.”

By China’s own numbers, the “max profits” are not doing much to aid their own ailing economy.

But let’s say this round-about supply to Europe is significant: Then the EU still gets oil and gas, and the revenues to Russia are dropping because the prices from Russia are “for cheap”. That’s the point: The EU and US don’t want to cause a worldwide energy shortage & further inflation, or internal unrest, “the West” wants to drop Russian energy revenues. After going about it most bass-ackwardly** up until now, with a lot of self-inflicted harm, the West is finally getting it 1/2 (or maybe 1/3) right.**

**The West still has not competently addressed the greater supply problem, and the lousy results (mostly) of the 2022 elections in the US likely mean a lot more unnecessarily high energy prices and stiff inflation for some time.


24 posted on 11/14/2022 9:12:01 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: MeganC

Then Russia is even more pathetic getting defeated by such a country.

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The Federation of Russia is not sitting in darkness, currency, manufacturing, economy decimated, untold suffering, dependent on the West’s life support.

Me thinks you have been drinking to much from the western media’s whiskey bottle.


25 posted on 11/14/2022 2:02:08 PM PST by delta7
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To: ChicagoConservative27

HE got it wrong. It is rather the end of the beginning.


26 posted on 11/14/2022 5:58:26 PM PST by nickfrost1
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