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Re: China Marriage Crisis - Was the 1 Child Policy in the mid-1970s, China's Ticket to Play in the Majors?
self | 11/7/2022 | Charles Oconnell

Posted on 11/07/2022 12:52:38 AM PST by CharlesOConnell

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Polybius (200 BC - 120 BC)

Depopulation of Greece

As I blame those who assign fortune and destiny as the Limits to the belief of the direct interference of Providence in human affairs. moving causes in common events and catastrophes, I wish now to enter as minutely on the discussion of this subject as the nature of an historical work will admit. Those things of which it is impossible or difficult for a mere man to ascertain the causes, such as a continuous fall of rains and unseasonable wet, or, on the contrary, droughts and frosts, one may reasonably impute to God and Fortune, in default of any other explanation; and from them come destruction of fruits, as well as long-continued epidemics, and other similar things, of which it is not easy to find the cause. On such matters then, we, in default of a better, follow the prevailing opinions of the multitude, attempting by supplications and sacrifices to appease the wrath of heaven, and sending to ask the gods by what words or actions on our part a change for the better may be brought about, and a respite be obtained for the evils which are afflicting us. But those things, of which it is possible to find the origin and cause of their occurrence, I do not think we should refer to the gods. I mean such a thing as the following. In our time all Greece was visited by a dearth of children and generally a decay of population, owing to which the cities were denuded of inhabitants, and a failure of productiveness resulted, though there were no long-continued wars or serious pestilences among us. If, then, any one had advised our sending to ask the gods in regard to this, what we were to do or say in order to become more numerous and better fill our cities,—would he not have seemed a futile person, when the cause was manifest and the cure in our own hands? For this evil grew upon us rapidly, and without attracting attention, by our men becoming perverted to a passion for show and money and the pleasures of an idle life, and accordingly either not marrying at all, or, if they did marry, refusing to rear the children that were born, or at most one or two out of a great number, for the sake of leaving them well off or bringing them up in extravagant luxury. For when there are only one or two sons, it is evident that, if war or pestilence carries off one, the houses must be left heirless: and, like swarms of bees, little by little the cities become sparsely inhabited and weak. On this subject there is no need to ask the gods how we are to be relieved from such a curse: for any one in the world will tell you that it is by the men themselves if possible changing their objects of ambition; or, if that cannot be done, by passing laws for the preservation of infants.

1 posted on 11/07/2022 12:52:38 AM PST by CharlesOConnell
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To: CharlesOConnell

One child policy is a sham. I made business with the Chinese family 20+ years ago. They had one son with a certificate of birth and several more undocumented children.


2 posted on 11/07/2022 1:53:12 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: CharlesOConnell

Mao Zedong died in September 1876, more than two years after Nixon left office.


3 posted on 11/07/2022 2:10:25 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: NorseViking

I work with the man who discovered the policy? And was punished by Stanford University for exposing it. Even if there were exceptions in what was then the most populous country on Earth doesn’t mean the policy didn’t exist and it was horrible. Why are you such a shill for communism?


4 posted on 11/07/2022 2:11:45 AM PST by nickcarraway
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“Mao Zedong died in September 1876, more than two years after Nixon left office.”

1876 is a typo.

Mao died September 9, 1976. Nixon left the office of President August 9, 1974. The author’s story is not well researched or the author is intentionally fudging the timeline of events.


5 posted on 11/07/2022 2:44:07 AM PST by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work o)
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To: CharlesOConnell

(Caution: Epoch Times is associated with Falun Gong.)

So what?

CC


6 posted on 11/07/2022 3:34:09 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Soul of the South

Or it is a typo


7 posted on 11/07/2022 3:36:11 AM PST by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearhheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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To: Soul of the South

I have wondered if China’s participation with the COVID/Vax crisis isn’t more driven by a desire not to be left behind. Maybe they know what is coming to them and wish to inflict it on the rest of the world, rather than suffer alone.


8 posted on 11/07/2022 3:41:23 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: CharlesOConnell

For Chinese over 30, the sex ratio is the normal 105 males per 100 females. For Chinese under 30, the ratio varies but is between 110 and 116 males per 100 females for various cohorts.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/282119/china-sex-ratio-by-age-group/

The sex ratio is probably less of a problem in China than it is in Islamic countries where males marry multiple females.


9 posted on 11/07/2022 3:54:15 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter
Had they not implemented the policy, starvation would be a much bigger problem.


10 posted on 11/07/2022 3:57:54 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: CharlesOConnell

Did the one child policy raise several generations of spoiled brats?


11 posted on 11/07/2022 4:08:24 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: CharlesOConnell
(though there's much less difference between capitalism and communism than is commonly understood).

The author of the article gets many things wrong.

What is clear, is the people who claim to be able to predict the future, can't and are constantly undone by unforeseen consequences.

12 posted on 11/07/2022 4:16:52 AM PST by marktwain
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To: nickcarraway

“Mao Zedong died in September (1976), more than two years after Nixon left office.”

That was a weird thing for the article to state, considering the first person Nixon met getting off the plane in Peking was Mao.


13 posted on 11/07/2022 4:22:34 AM PST by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Latvia: 37 degrees)
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To: NorseViking

I read a article recently identifying a shortage of women in China, which according to the article will effect troop numbers and may have societal impacts beyond just the military.


14 posted on 11/07/2022 4:42:00 AM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: Clutch Martin
Japan is set to make billion$ selling robots to China. LOL


15 posted on 11/07/2022 5:38:08 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Chickensoup

“Or it is a typo”

I stated it is a typo. My comment about the author wasn’t referring to the poster who made the typo. It was referring to the author of the article.


16 posted on 11/07/2022 6:03:13 AM PST by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work o)
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To: nickcarraway

What was the name of that man and what is he doing today? I remember they persecuted him claiming he had stolen a truck to use to get out to the countryside to see the effects of the one child policy. All trumped up charges.


17 posted on 11/07/2022 7:20:00 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: Tell It Right

They better keep some robots for themselves.


18 posted on 11/07/2022 7:21:05 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: BobL

There’s even an opera called “Nixon in China” with a major scene called ‘The Chairman Dances’ where the actor playing Mao dances to a foxtrot.


19 posted on 11/07/2022 7:23:18 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: tired&retired

The brats are called ‘Little Emporers’ and would probably make lousy husbands and fathers even if they could get married.


20 posted on 11/07/2022 7:25:33 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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