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Russian soldiers enter Kherson homes, dig in for urban war
AP, via ABC News.com ^ | November 4, 2022 | ANDREW MELDRUM and YURAS KARMANAU

Posted on 11/05/2022 7:46:21 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

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Not a very good strategy of surprise if the Ukrainians already know what the Russians are up to in Kherson. The hapless mobiki being pushed into the city are not going to be having a good time of it.
1 posted on 11/05/2022 7:46:22 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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Urban warfare is brutal.

Especially when you got no airforce and are vastly outgunned in artillery.

And your infrastructure is being blasted daily.

This is gonna bleed the Ukrainians white.


2 posted on 11/05/2022 7:50:27 AM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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The Russian army was able to defend wherever it choose so far.


3 posted on 11/05/2022 7:51:03 AM PDT by NorseViking
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But… but… but… I thought you said the Russian forces were RETREATING from the right bank of the river in Kherson. Just sayin’.


4 posted on 11/05/2022 7:55:44 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX.)
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Oh, like Izium and Lyman?


5 posted on 11/05/2022 7:58:06 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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They are...the hapless mobiki are being shoveled in as rearguard fodder. But the Ukrainians are on to the Russians now, so that’s not going to work.


6 posted on 11/05/2022 7:59:59 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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The Russians lost a lot of territory near Khariv in the summer.


7 posted on 11/05/2022 8:00:17 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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It was mighty great victory of 20,000 vs 500, meaning it was chosen not to defend them.


8 posted on 11/05/2022 8:01:11 AM PDT by NorseViking
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“The Russian army was able to defend wherever it choose so far.”

Snort….Crimea.

L


9 posted on 11/05/2022 8:03:45 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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It was mighty great victory of 20,000 vs 500, meaning it was chosen not to defend them.


10 posted on 11/05/2022 8:04:38 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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“Russian military personnel were going door to door, checking property deeds and forcing tenants to leave immediately if they can’t prove ownership of apartments, he said.”

LMAO! Oh, I bet they are doing it that way. OMG!


11 posted on 11/05/2022 8:39:21 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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Stalingrad on the Dnieper?


12 posted on 11/05/2022 8:40:06 AM PDT by Tallguy
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Urban warfare is brutal, but Ukraine has the initiative and is choosing when and where to fight. I suspect they will set up a defendable perimeter to isolate the Russians, identify and target lines of communication, logistical nodes, and command and control sites.Then let time and frustration do the rest.

Withstanding a siege requires internal motivation by the defenders, Conscript troops,far from home and on foreign soil, have many vulnerabilities the Ukrainians can exploit without leveling the city.


13 posted on 11/05/2022 8:43:45 AM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.")
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They were looking to do damage...not acquire the area..and they did just that...


14 posted on 11/05/2022 9:00:19 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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rattenkrieg


15 posted on 11/05/2022 9:32:30 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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Update on Russian military operations in and around Ukraine for November 5, 2022

- US assistance to Ukraine increasingly depends on "refurbishing" antiquated weapons kept in storage as current inventories of weapons run low;
- Russian tanks continue to roll out of factories while those in storage are also being upgraded and deployed;
- British state media admits Ukraine faces difficulties in taking Kherson city;
- Russian forces continue preparing for protracted combat while Ukraine races against the clock in terms of energy, economics, and material support for combat operations

16 posted on 11/05/2022 9:45:39 AM PDT by Kazan
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Surround the town. Cut off the supply lines. Keep moving forward.

No need to destroy the city.


17 posted on 11/05/2022 9:50:02 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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—”Stalingrad on the Dnieper?”

Unlikely the Russians have another Sgt Pavlov.
Sgt Pavlov and his men were defending their Motherland; a huge difference from the current situation.


18 posted on 11/05/2022 9:52:38 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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I don’t see the Ukrainians making an armored “thunder run” into the city to put an end to this occupation. More than likely that would end up like the First Chechen War when the Russians tried it and got chopped up entering Grozny. The Russians are, in effect, daring the Ukrainians to try it. I wouldn’t put it past the Russians to rain artillery down on their own defenders in Kherson figuring they’re all dead anyway.

I’m sympathetic to the Ukranians, but they should probably look for an indirect approach to get the Russians out of Kherson. Don’t know what that would look like.


19 posted on 11/05/2022 9:59:39 AM PDT by Tallguy
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That’s probably the plan...cut it off and starve the rats out!


20 posted on 11/05/2022 10:09:36 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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