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War In Ukraine - U.S. Creeping Towards Ever Deeper Involvement

Posted on 11/04/2022 9:14:16 AM PDT by elpadre

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To: elpadre

Add 15 points against Ukraine involvement to compensate for DS spin.

I’m active in the R party. Poll watcher. Big Desantis and Trump supporter. Absentee ballot collector, etc. And I’ve been against all support for Ukraine from the start. Especially after Vindman, CIAramella, Chalupa, Butisma, Biden, etc., What they did to Trump.

And Zelenske is a very wealthy grifter, laughing all the way to the bank.

The entire country is corrupt as hell!

We’re idiots for sticking our nose in there. It won’t end well.

What a giant scam.


21 posted on 11/04/2022 10:20:02 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (I was so afraid of him coming in the shower with me I would wait until later in the night” Ashley B)
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To: MeganC

Maybe RT News is giving Doug some true insights into what they are going to do. One thing—war with Russia is not a good idea in any case. It could go to WW III quick. USA and Poland, Maybe Latvia and Romania join in a move to strengthen Ukraine. We get hit hard, More troops sent in. NATO Splits Most go neutral, we are left holding the bag. US Ships are attacked, Troop planes shot down. War is declared after a Rambo Speech by Biden, Russia attacks Alaska after we hit Russian oil fields. China and North Korea join the fight and attack Guam. Brazil and south Africa join Russia as well as Iran and Syria. Starting to sound like August 1914.


22 posted on 11/04/2022 10:26:39 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: elpadre

I hear the Gulf of Tonkin is just off the coast of Odessa.


23 posted on 11/04/2022 10:29:38 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: House Atreides

You posted the article and it is simple and straightforward.

The mystery is how in your mind you changed it all up into an entirely different story.


24 posted on 11/04/2022 10:31:27 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: real saxophonist

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25 posted on 11/04/2022 10:37:09 AM PDT by elpadre (W )
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To: elpadre

Keep the war in Ukraine going.

It is the only way to save Brandon from his actual accomplishments. Bad governments have a long history of using foreign wars to distract the populace.


26 posted on 11/04/2022 10:40:00 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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To: cranked; MeganC

No, Megan is not a paid troll. In my opinion she is completely wrong on this issue. But she has been a long time member contributing lots of useful opinions and I agree with her on many other issues. She is a rancher and family woman of some type out in Montana, or somewhere like that.
But the debate has become pretty embarrassing and hijacks threads.
McGregor was a very respected Colonel and is not a crackpot. Yep he gets paid by RT. So is/were Dennis Miller, Larry King, Jesse Ventura and many other intersting people.

Yep, it’s a government owned network.
But even a cursory look there shows a diversity of opinion that you don’t find in any of our own media. And shockingly, you can even add comments after news stories. Try that at FOX, CNN, MSNBC, MSN, etc. And many of the comments are pointedly against the story and are not deleted.

Speaking of government ownership of the media, BBC gets a pass. And our recently exposed fascist arrangement between social media and news giants and the DOJ/FBI to silence dissent and suppress stories makes the “RT is government owned” argument ring hollow.

As for McGregor, he’s a good guy with some interesting things to consider. He was discussing a plan Petraeus was pushing of a US force invading Ukraine to go force on force with Russians. Petraeus is making 200k a year minimum from KKR a globalist hedge fund with massive financial interests in the Ukraine ATM for insiders.

Bottom line, Megan was wrong to discount McGregor because he is paid by RT. RT is more balanced than any US network including FOX. You are very incorrect to call her a paid troll.
These “who is the paid troll” games are a waste of time. The fact is most people here came by their opinions honestly in their lives, education and experiences.

We all need to stick to more intelligent arguments than “paid troll”.


27 posted on 11/04/2022 10:45:20 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“ Maybe RT News is giving Doug some true insights into what they are going to do. One thing—war with Russia is not a good idea in any case. It could go to WW III quick. USA and Poland, Maybe Latvia and Romania join in a move to strengthen Ukraine. We get hit hard, More troops sent in. NATO Splits Most go neutral, we are left holding the bag. US Ships are attacked, Troop planes shot down. War is declared after a Rambo Speech by Biden, Russia attacks Alaska after we hit Russian oil fields. China and North Korea join the fight and attack Guam. Brazil and south Africa join Russia as well as Iran and Syria. Starting to sound like August 1914.”
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Careful! You’re going to stimulate orgasms in our resident globalist, neocon warmongers.


28 posted on 11/04/2022 10:55:06 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: DesertRhino

“No, Megan is not a paid troll.”

Thank you. And we live outside of Cody, Wyoming towards Yellowstone. If you’re ever up this way let me know and if you’re in an RV we have paved RV parking with hookups and septic.

I know we don’t agree on this subject but I’d enjoy the chat.


29 posted on 11/04/2022 10:57:33 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC

That sounds you have figured life out pretty well. And if you find a way that someone will give you mailbox money for posting on FR, please freepmail me.


30 posted on 11/04/2022 11:08:56 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino

It sounds like a nice idea but I like posting on here and would hate to turn it into a job. I’d have to stop posting on Sundays if it were work!


31 posted on 11/04/2022 11:15:18 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

With US troops in the Ukraine supposedly seeing to it our donated weapons and dollars are properly used, it will only take one Russian missile strike on a building killing a US military personnel for Biden to quickly yell, “war.”


32 posted on 11/04/2022 11:43:27 AM PDT by elpadre (W )
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To: DesertRhino

Thank you Desert Rhino for Post #27. You are exactly right. Rather than making personal accusations, we should all just enter the debate and seek the truth, and become better informed.


33 posted on 11/04/2022 11:49:11 AM PDT by elpadre (W )
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To: elpadre

Ukraine is listed as one of the most corrupt Countries in Europe. Why would we want to give them money? Now we are sending military advisors to try and find out who stole the money and weapons. It looks like our deranged President is trying to start a proxy war with Russia.


34 posted on 11/04/2022 12:21:42 PM PDT by rok43
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To: elpadre

It’s NOT a NATO partner, so get the hell out of that shithole. Let the EU morons handle it, if they can. Zelensky and Putin are both corrupt dictators. Other than all the illegal US BioLabs, we have no interest in that place.


35 posted on 11/04/2022 2:22:15 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: MeganC

Snicker that is Biblical...and by the way. I remembered it was Wyoming, but I said “Montana” to try to keep some weirdo from ever becoming some kind of nuisance to you and yours.
I am beginning to think that it may have only served to protect the potential weirdo rather than you. I think if the weirdo showed up... it would likely be a day he would remember grimly...albeit briefly.


36 posted on 11/04/2022 3:21:13 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino

I guess I’ve acclimated to Wyoming. Not really worried about crazy people any more.


37 posted on 11/04/2022 5:30:55 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC

I suppose if you live somewhere that a grizzly bear could show up in your backyard, it might create a level of self-confidence in a person


38 posted on 11/04/2022 5:52:57 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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