[Allegra]

You and others are okay with that, myself and some others are not.

You’re spewing assumptions/lies now. You sound like Hillary and Obama saying ridiculous things as they campaign for the Democrats.

This is why I don’t like talking with leftists. They use tactics like that because they don’t have a solid premise; they’re driven more by emotions.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

Honestly confused here. I thought your point was that the Ukrainians should be left to win or lose on their own without any material assistance from us. And if that means they have to capitulate fully to the Russians, so be it.

Or was I wrong about your point?