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To: freeandfreezing
"So the context is entirely made up opinions."

Those are very unusual 'made up opinions' to come up with, then. Why oh why would you even come up with such outlandish ideas? (Seriously though, anyone with a brain can see why you chose those particular examples, given the political context at the time.)

But beyond overall sentiment on FR during Trump's presidency that I can recall, evidence is easy to find through a casual Internet stroll.

For example, the accounting firm Ernst & Young (in both 2012 and 2018) released a poll regarding perceptions of corruption from financial executives, auditing firms, and legal counsels for 55 countries. Ukraine ranked in the top 10 in both years.

The Ukrainian Week, in 2013, reported about public perceptions of corruption as being endemic in their society.

In 2018, the Kyiv Post reported about corrupt candidates being nominated to Ukraine's new "High Anti-Corruption Court." Even as recently as June 2022, the Kyiv Independent reported on Ukraine's judicial "Ethics Council" for nominating tainted candidates.

The Pandora Papers.

And so on and so forth, whether it be pre-Maidan or post-Maidan.

I get that geopolitical winds have changed, and now you believe supporting Ukraine is warranted if it means cutting Russia off at the knees. I get that.

But you don't have to pretend that Ukraine's corruption went away to do it.

90 posted on 11/03/2022 10:15:03 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

In terms of sources, and detection of bias, can you tell me if Ukrainian Week, Kyiv Post, and the Kyiv Independent are accurate, unbiased sources of information about what is happening in Ukraine?


92 posted on 11/03/2022 3:48:28 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Much of the corruption in Ukraine resulted from the importation of Russian corruption.

"But it’s more than that: Putin’s aggression may also be aimed at legitimizing his rule at home by installing a new state-sponsored oligarchy in Ukraine. He may be seeking to kill the idea, which took hold in Ukraine during the 2014 Revolution of Dignity at the Maidan. The Maidan Revolution started when Ukrainians took to the streets of the Maidan in central Kyiv to protest then-President Victor Yanukovych’s sudden decision to reverse the nation’s course to join the European Union and engage in free trade with the world’s largest economic bloc. But the Maidan Revolution was not just about one decision or one administration. The Maidan uprising was a revolution against the system of corrupt rule of Yanukovych and the oligarch class that was choking the nation’s potential—and it was also about the idea: the idea that every individual should have the freedom, the right, and the path to fulfill their human potential. This idea fundamentally threatens Putin’s personal authority and autocratic rule. As Ukraine’s reformers have begun to take concrete steps to embed this idea in independent institutions, they set an example for Russian citizens, who may be inspired by Ukraine’s example to demand that their government suppress official corruption and respect for human rights."

Source GAB The Global Anticorruption Blog

93 posted on 11/03/2022 3:55:31 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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