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Posted on 10/31/2022 11:57:43 PM PDT by ganeemead

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To: cranked
Like all them shells being continuously being fired at Russians in the Donbass regions since 2014

Fortunately, that's made up nonsense, which the Russians have never presented any real evidence for (other than showing photos of schools that, it turned out, were in Ukrainian controlled settlements that the Russians themselves were bombing). You can post the evidence yourself, if I am wrong (and no, posting posts from Telegram is not "evidence" of anything).

Meanwhile, there are dead bodies, maimings, destroyed homes, on a nearly daily basis documented by the OSCE from Russian terror attacks on civilian targets since 2014 to the present day, which they would accuse Ukraine of either doing to themselves or denying altogether. Not to mention huge numbers of Russian troops, artillery and other elements filmed/documented by the OSCE, which the Russians wouldn't even admit were there.

Not surprising for the country that trained/supported Yasser Arafat and the PLO and invented modern terrorism, eh?

21 posted on 11/01/2022 2:11:47 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Terrorism has always been a useful tool for the US/UK/NATO.
Your point fails miserably.


22 posted on 11/01/2022 2:13:02 AM PDT by cranked
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23 posted on 11/01/2022 2:14:43 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

24 posted on 11/01/2022 2:15:50 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Cathi

...many in the west are really tired of the so-called “Ukraine anchor”, which is getting harder on their economies and is more expensive to maintain every month.

The Germans have admitted that there is no more money in Europe

This was stated by German Federal President Frank-Walter Steinmeier during a keynote speech at Bellevue Castle, stressing that “an era of headwinds is beginning for Germany - difficult, difficult years are coming for us. Germany is in the deepest crisis since reunification,” Spigel reports.

Although on Tuesday, after visiting Kiev, he announced the transfer of two additional MARS multiple rocket launchers and four Panzerhaubitze 2000 howitzers to Ukraine, the president now claims that the world economy has weakened so much that the EU countries are no longer able to provide financial assistance to Ukraine without harming their population. It is because of this that Europe is on the verge of an energy crisis.

In his speech, Steinmeier called on citizens to prepare for further restrictions and deterioration of living standards.

https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/frank-walter-steinmeier-stimmt-deutschland-auf-raue-jahre-ein-a-64507933-fa4b-44ce-b1af-e1ab3154f1d4


25 posted on 11/01/2022 2:16:21 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: ganeemead

Ukraine desperately pleads for more weapons, ammunition and billions more U.S. dollars to be pumped into its collapsed economy. It struggles to keep the lights on, electric trains running, and water systems operational. Its people are fleeing in droves.

This is the Western world’s latest definition of “winning.”


26 posted on 11/01/2022 2:17:25 AM PDT by Gnome1949
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To: cranked
Terrorism has always been a useful tool for the US/UK/NATO.

Wrong again, vatnik: What does Yasser Arafat, Saddam Hussain, Carlos the Jackal, FARC, Ayman Al-Zawahiri, etc. etc. etc., all have in common?:

They received training/funding/support from Russia. Zawahiri was actually directly trained at an FSB camp per Alexander Litvinenko:

http://www.konzervativnistrana.cz/temata/prispevek/article/is-al-qaeda-a-kremlin-proxy.html

The leadership of the PLO all received ideological and other training directly in Russia as well:

27 posted on 11/01/2022 2:18:38 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You fail at history apparently.

Most of them Middle East baddies you keep referring to received lots and lots of training from Nazis’ passed to the Grand Mufti Amin Al-Husseini and then passed down to generations afterwards, to include Arafat’s PLO, etc.

Irony.


28 posted on 11/01/2022 2:21:17 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Cathi

The Germans have been in bed with Russia and China for decades and are directly at fault for the current crisis in Ukraine. They attempted to get the entirety of Europe dependent on Russian gas, and also instigated the refugee crisis—a tactic openly used by Russia on Poland last winter (though the Poles thwarted it).

60 Billion, which is a fraction of our spending, is not making us broke or these communists in Germany like Mama Merkel or others with direct ties to the Russian state, either ideologically (Merkel was a former Communist youth member) or financially.


29 posted on 11/01/2022 2:22:17 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: cranked
You fail at history apparently.

Your version of history is not only deranged but so retarded I don't even know what to say about it.

30 posted on 11/01/2022 2:23:48 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Cause there is nothing you can say if you objective did some research, but we know that ain’t going to happen......


31 posted on 11/01/2022 2:25:17 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Doc91678

FWIW Rummel puts the Ukraine deaths during collectivization (AKA the Holodomor) at 5 millions.

https://hawaii.edu/powerkills/USSR.TAB4A.GIF

Main 20th Century Democide page.

https://hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM


32 posted on 11/01/2022 2:28:59 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: cranked

Ukrainian TG-channel “Resident” writes:

“Our source in the Office of the President said that a meeting on the country’s energy security was held at Bankova yesterday, at which scenarios were presented for the development of the situation in Ukraine if missile strikes on critical infrastructure continue. “40 days, and then the unified power supply system will be disrupted, the country will turn into closed islands. Most of the territory of Ukraine will remain without electricity, rolling blackouts will not help, and the population will have to be evacuated so that the cities do not freeze.”


33 posted on 11/01/2022 2:49:24 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: ganeemead

Nothing more than a money laundering operation.


34 posted on 11/01/2022 2:51:50 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Gnome1949

The mayor of Kramatorsk Alexander Goncharenko said that at night the Russian Armed Forces launched 14 missile strikes on the industrial zone of the city, publishing a photo of one of the destroyed objects.

-milinfolive


35 posted on 11/01/2022 2:55:47 AM PDT by Cathi
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36 posted on 11/01/2022 3:02:14 AM PDT by cranked
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Ukrainian TG-channel “Resident” writes:

“Our source in the OP said that the Office of the President is increasingly worried about possible negotiations between the US and Russia on a new Big Deal that will include Ukraine. Bankova has no illusions about Western policy and understands that Ukraine’s interests are no more for them than Afghanistan, in order to prevent this, Andrei Yermak considers it necessary to draw NATO into the war with Russia as much as possible.”


37 posted on 11/01/2022 3:02:40 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: cranked

“why russia not lose?”

Hackers (https://t.me/Slavyangrad/17909) hacked into the American command-and-control program Delta, which is used by the Ukrainian army

This was told by the author of the Telegram channel “Joker DPR”, known for curious insiders about the Ukrainian side.

Delta is a program in which all data about own troops and enemy troops is entered for command and control of troops, which are regularly updated with the receipt of intelligence.

“Ukrainian soldiers brag about computer programs and laugh at Donetsk because of the use of paper maps. I decided to clarify. As long as Ukrainians regularly fill their databases with programs donated by their American owners, we don’t even need to invent or install anything, we just use their programs “online. It’s very convenient and economical. I want to draw your attention to the fact that ALL of their programs. Now you know why you have been failing a lot of things lately,” Joker writes.


38 posted on 11/01/2022 3:06:57 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: ganeemead

Weird.


39 posted on 11/01/2022 3:10:32 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

40 posted on 11/01/2022 3:18:54 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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