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To: lodi90; Bruce Campbells Chin

You two do realize that the US was negotiating with Japan towards the end of the war?

Hardliners who didn’t want to negotiate were responsible for the US dropping atomic bombs.


54 posted on 10/27/2022 9:42:47 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: Erik Latranyi

It’s so typical of the Kremlin to make demands on those it victimizes. That is upside down abuser logic at its finest. Sadly, there is nothing to negotiate here. Russia’s imperial army must be bled out in the mud of Ukraine until Russia collapses. Again.

Putin today:

“The only real guarantor of the sovereignty and state integrity of Ukraine could only be Russia, which created today’s Ukraine”


65 posted on 10/27/2022 10:28:58 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Erik Latranyi
yYou two do realize that the US was negotiating with Japan towards the end of the war? Hardliners who didn’t want to negotiate were responsible for the US dropping atomic bombs.

Yes, and that's a great example of exactly what I'm talking about, so let's discuss it.

First, it should be pointed out that the Soviets were involved in those negotiations, but deliberately negotiated in bad faith. Their goal was to extend the war as long as possible so they would have time to seize Japanese possessions in Manchuria and on Sakhalin.

Second, the negotiations that did occur were not face to face between the US and Japan, but rather amounted to exchanges of written proposals that were then debated internally. The Potsdam Declaration was actually one of the public proposal by the Allies.

So let's use that as a template. If Russia wants to send a written peace proposal to Ukraine, there is absolutely nothing preventing it. They can even make it public if they'd like.

66 posted on 10/27/2022 10:53:48 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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