Law Against Possession of Unserialized Gun Ruled Unconstitutional in West Virginia

AmmoLand ^ | October 17, 2022 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

If a law banning possession of guns where the serial number has been removed is unconstitutional, all the registration schemes fall apart.

[Carriage Hill]

Ping.

[Vendome]

There is no point serialized guns.

They don’t solve the gun crime because of the serial number.

They the rime because of “use characteristics “ , fingerprints, possession, etc.

[LouAvul]

We don't need any laws re guns. We need to execute maximum and medieval sentences on lawbreakers. Kill'em or lock'em away ..... forever. Gun crime will all but vanish and gun laws superfluous. Let's go back to the Frank Hamer philosophy of law enforcement.

Better yet, Wyatt Earp and his eradication of the gang that murdered his brother.

[Wilhelm Tell]

There are guns out there that were made before serial numbers were required. A lot of manufacturers gave them serial numbers anyway as a quality control thing but some did not.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

:: They don’t solve the gun crime because of the serial number. ::

How many black lives (that matter, of course) were saved by removing Uncle Ben from the packaging?
A plain Aunt Jemima syrup ended how many southside shootings?

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

Careful.
Wyatt Earp didn’t allow possession of firearms in his town.
Other than his own.

[LouAvul]

Good point.

[marktwain]

Some would say the Earps and Clantons were rival gangs...

As I recall the Earps ran at least one saloon and brothel, which were legal at the time...

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

The Earps were the forerunner of the FBI.

[Reno89519]

So, does this mean that that law is invalidated? We can now go and file off all serial numbers? And don't need them to sell the firearm?

Somehow I don't see this surviving an appeals court, or other courts in the US.

[dljordan]

“There is no point serialized guns.”

It helps to determine the date of manufacture if you’re a collector or there is a recall and there are recalls.

[Lurker]

“Wyatt Earp didn’t allow possession of firearms in his town.”

Arizona didn’t become a state until 1912.

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[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

I believe the locals were allowed to own firearms in those Kansas towns. Carrying was not.

Case in point. In Wichita, Hurricane Bill and his armed cowboys headed for the jail to break out one of their friends.
All the law enforcers took off leaving one man behind.

Someone rang the city alarm bell, and the Cowboys found themselves facing a substantial group of Wichita citizens, all armed to the teeth. Hurricane Bill’s men quietly retreated, disposing of their guns in various weed patches.

[TheDon]

Always good to remove victimless crimes from the books.

[marktwain]

It means this one person has the charges dropped for possession of an firearm which had the serial number removed.

We shall see if the state will appeal the case to the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals.

If they do not appeal, not much more will happen right away.

[old curmudgeon]

And if you have a rifle with a shot out barrel and replace the barrel, that new barrel will not have a serial number on it.

If the only serial number on the gun was on the original barrel, no serial number will be on that gun.

Older rifles traditionally were marked in one place only....the barrel.

Competition shooters will replace barrels many times and from after market barrel specialists.

[MeganC]

But it’s still illegal to remove a mattress tag!

[Scrambler Bob]

There is no point serialized guns.

They don’t solve the gun crime because of the serial number.

They the rime because of “use characteristics “ , fingerprints, possession, etc.
= = =

I say there should be a “Use By” date on each gun.

And “Keep Refrigerated” after opening.

Kind of like for Milk, Wine, and Whisky.

[Vendome]

Good call