Complicating matters, the Doritos come in swarms, so a system that is useful against one at a time will not be effective against a half dozen coming from all directions with the same time on target.
Posted on 10/19/2022 1:29:12 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba is begging Israel for military aid in the form of sophisticated air defense systems in order to prolong their conflict against Russia.
“Today, Ukraine will send an official note to the government of Israel with a request to urgently provide Ukraine with anti-aircraft systems and to start high-quality cooperation on obtaining appropriate technologies for Ukraine,” Kuleba said, adding that he does “not see any objective reasons why” Israel shouldn’t bail his country out like so many others are doing.
“Iran is a red line for Israel, and after Iran has directly, in fact, become complicit in the crime of aggression against Ukraine, I think anyone in Israel who still has any hesitation about whether or not to help Ukraine, he must dispel these hesitations,” Kuleba stated.
However, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that Israel should not intervene with military aid to promote the conflict. Giving shelter to refugees and providing humanitarian aid is enough, he argues, because weapons funneled to the Ukrainians could easily end up in the hands of the Iranians.
“On the question of weapons there’s always a possibility, and this has happened time and again, that weapons that we supplied in one battlefield end up in Iranian hands used against us,” Netanyahu said. “In the Golan Heights, where we’re trying to prevent Iran from creating a second Lebanon front, a second terrorist front against us, we encounter Israeli made weapons.”
Other Israeli politicians are making the opposite case as Netanyahu, claiming that since Iran is allegedly helping Russia conduct their war in Ukraine by providing Russia with drones, Israel should support Ukraine as a way to fight a proxy battle of sorts against Iran.
“There is no longer any doubt where Israel should stand in this bloody conflict,” said Diaspora Affairs Minister Nachman Shai, a leading cheerleader for Israel to give military aid to Ukraine.
Netanyahu noted that this is the type of logic that has created world wars in the past. He is concerned with preventing World War 3 and believes restraint is necessary.
“I don’t think it makes that much difference if it’s tactical nuclear weapons or strategic nuclear weapons, that threshold has not been crossed for 77 years and I think what is required right now is a combination of firmness and prudence to make sure that this conflict ends and certainly doesn’t spread,” he said.
Former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev stated on Monday that it would be a “very reckless move” by Israel to give direct military aid to Ukraine and this decision would “destroy government relations between our countries.” Hopefully Israel does not take the bait and get in bed with the corrupt globalist Ukrainian puppet regime that has no concern for anything except keeping their own illicit power.
I watched him being interviewed. Miss him and Trump.
Israel is not going to give the Iron Dome to anybody, because it’ll be revealed to the world that it’s only somewhat effective against home-made unguided stove-pipe rockets.
That would not be good for Israel’s international reputation as an arms innovator.
Complicating matters, the Doritos come in swarms, so a system that is useful against one at a time will not be effective against a half dozen coming from all directions with the same time on target.
Like any mechatronic system, I assume continuous development helps it to get better every year.
Sounds like they need a junior version of the Phalanx CIWS that fires shotgun shells or similar cheap rounds. Given the capability of current sensors and electronics, it doesn’t seem that difficult.
It’s very difficult.
There are MANY problems. For example, all that CIWS 20mm AA that goes up in a city, comes down in a city. Doing damage and killing people.
If you put the AA in a belt around a city, it has to cover 360* around a very large area, because the drone swarms are designed to come from all directions with the same time on target, not just from the direction of launch like, say, WW2 German Buzz Bombs. So you can’t just put your AA on the “threat” side of a city.
So you would need 30 or more CIWS (at least) around every city. And a “burst” from the gatling-gun CIWS would cost far more in ammunition than the $20K drone.
They are going to need an entirely new type of AA defense, spread across thousands of square miles, and that will take time. Each defensive munition must cost less than a drone, or it’s a net win for the attacker even when a drone is sometimes shot down. So expensive MANPADs like Stingers are out.
It has to be a super cheap acoustic-homing MANPAD, perhaps, and that will take time to develop. Low-altitude acoustic MANPADs with a network of acoustic sensors. They don’t need a high ceiling or speed, these drones are flying at Cessna speeds.
Anybody who thought the Iranians were stupid, that they would try to match against our strengths, now knows better. They came up with an entirely new niche of attack drones where we don’t have a defense ready, not at all.
Maybe we need SpaceX to take on defense contracting?
Very likely, and on the Terrorist Black Market.
I'm looking for Stingers to start turning up around US airports.
Who do you think has been paying for all the Starlinks, all along?
Musk? LOL.
In before the FreeRepublic Zelly Zelensky Bathhouse Brigade tells us we’re Putin trolls for wanting Zelensky to negotiate a settlement with Russia before Iran gets US weapons like Obama’s Tollybon too
Kuleba is a Euroweeniephile. The EU have a history of pro paleostinian love festing. Say no Israel
...Weapons Shipments Given to Ukraine Will End Up in Iran
Very likely, and on the Terrorist Black Market.”
Soon on Wish Dot Com and the dark web (actually already available on the dark web).
Russia threaten Israel if they send any weapons to Ukraine according to Amir Tsarftai
It wondered when someone would blow the whistle on this disgusting con job.
I missed Former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu’s warning about billions of dollars of weapons Jao Bai-din left in Afghanistan ending up in Iran.
Good point.
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