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Kari Lake: “This an experimental shot. Our Children are NOT guinea pigs.”
Kari Lake ^ | Oct 18 2023 | Kari Lake

Posted on 10/19/2022 1:08:43 PM PDT by NeverCheney

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To: entropy12

Its been happening since day one. You choose to ignore. I have lost now, 4 people in my circle from the shots


21 posted on 10/19/2022 2:43:25 PM PDT by roving ( Pronouns- libs/suk)
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To: entropy12
Is 21 months long enough time for long term effects?

Are you just kidding or are you that ignorant?

There is no long term control group. The effects of asbestos exposure don’t appear for decades. Nobody has fully tested the effects of the Vax on pregnant women or their babies. Or the effects on fertility and miscarriages.

The manufacturers have admitted they did not test for the ability to stop transmission. What else didn’t they test for?

The Vax is neither safe nor effective.

Prove me wrong.

22 posted on 10/19/2022 2:51:52 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (I got the <ΙΧΘΥΣ>< variant. Catch it. John 3:16)
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To: P-Marlowe

Just like give testosterone to girls that want to be boys.

Get prescribed the testosterone shots (based on “I feel like a boy”) and NO follow up at all. Much less an actual study.


23 posted on 10/19/2022 2:54:45 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: P-Marlowe

I do not do clinical testing of vaccines. So I do not know if vaccine is effective. What I know for sure is no vaccine can prevent infection. Because no vaccine ever built a virus proof filter in respiratory system. One of the most effective vaccines, did not prevent me from getting infected with smallpox. But it did what vaccines ar esupposed to do, which is to help fight the virus after it invades.

On personal note, 7 members of my immediate family have received between 4 and 5 jabs of covid vaccine. No one had any adverse effects. My wife and I did 5 cruises in last 12 months, and we never tested positive or had symptoms. 2 members in my family did test positive after attending a music concert, but recovered without serious symptoms and did not need hospitalization.


24 posted on 10/19/2022 3:01:16 PM PDT by entropy12
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To: entropy12

Is 21 months long enough time for long term effects?
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I don’t think so.

A Phase 2/3, Three-Part, Open-Label, Dose-Escalation, Age De-escalation and Randomized, Observer-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Expansion Study to Evaluate the Safety, Tolerability, Reactogenicity, and Effectiveness of mRNA-1273 SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine in Healthy Children 6 Months to Less Than 12 Years of Age

Actual Study Start Date : March 15, 2021
Estimated Primary Completion Date : November 12, 2023
Estimated Study Completion Date : November 12, 2023

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04796896

They just want to forcefully enroll all of America’s children “for some reason”.


25 posted on 10/19/2022 3:04:00 PM PDT by JCL3 (As Richard Feynman might have said, this is reality taking precedence over public relations.)
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To: entropy12
What I know for sure is no vaccine can prevent infection.

Literally everyone I know who got the vaccine ended up getting the disease. It is not effective in preventing or stopping the transmission of the virus. They claim it prevents serious symptoms, but there is no way to prove that. There are too many variables. The first being that those most likely to die from the disease were dead before the vaccine roll out. The disease mutated to a less deadly strain so they can’t attribute the decrease in deaths to the vaccine. I don’t know why you keep pimping the Vax here. What is your agenda?

26 posted on 10/19/2022 3:07:32 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (I got the <ΙΧΘΥΣ>< variant. Catch it. John 3:16)
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To: NeverCheney

Kari is the total package! She wants to represent Arizonanans not the party. She’s extremely well spoken wtih a quick wit. She’s compassionate about conservative ideas and logical logical. She wants to fight for Arizona. And she’s extremely easy on eyes.

Clay and Buck were saying how she’s VP material for 2024. I’ve been saying that since before the AZ primary. Her rally’s draw YUGE crowds. I’ve been to a couple.

If Kari doesn’t win, then the fix is in. She’s extremely popular in Arizona.


27 posted on 10/19/2022 3:22:37 PM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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If you did not get the vaccine, you are have no first hand experience with the vaccine. Whereas 7 members of my family all had 4 or 5 jabs of the vaccine, so I can speak from first hand experience, which you lack. Why you resent people with FIRST HAND experience with vaccine posting their real results? WHat is your agenda to post fear porn here?

You obviously have no college level exposure to statistics. 260+ Million Americans have chosen to gert jabbed. How many million out of those have suffered adverse effects? Furnish links to all those millions of casualties.

And since your English comprehension is obviously very low, show me my post where I said “I recommend you to get covid vaccine”. If I never said that I am obviously not pimping for the vaccine. Actually if you bother to read my many posts on this subject, I have always expressed my strong opposition to ANY HEALTHCARE MANDATES from the government. Politicians and bureaucrats are not qualified to issue healthcare mandates.

Finally, I feel it behooves on my part to write about my FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE about covid vaccines, so that people can make up their own minds, instead of people like you who have no first hand experience with the vaccines.


28 posted on 10/19/2022 7:24:33 PM PDT by entropy12
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To: entropy12
Odd that having an agenda apparently could only work one way....

I got the shot but only because I was set to go to a very important annual training and I thought it might be required. Turned out not to be, but I didn't want to miss it. Didn't get a second booster, though. No adverse reactions in my immediate family, but I have a cousin who developed severe pancreatitis that they said was probably caused by Moderna.

In any case, I kind of thought it made sense for older people or those in at risk groups to get the shot, because getting a bad case otherwise could be very severe for them. But I never thought it made any sense for young or otherwise healthy people to get it considering there was too little data on the long-term risks.

That being said, I oppose mandates, and believe it should be up to each individual to make their own call. I don't really care what others decide one way or the other.

29 posted on 10/19/2022 10:26:40 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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Why would ‘older people’ take a vaccine that is not going to stop transmission to them, nor prevent serious illness?
Why is the death shot good for old folks?
My take is they hope to kill off the old folks.


30 posted on 10/19/2022 10:37:06 PM PDT by antceecee
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Why would ‘older people’ take a vaccine that is not going to stop transmission to them, nor prevent serious illness?

Because they believe it reduces the severity of symptoms should they acquire it. I'm pretty comfortable based on the evidence I've seen that is true, although there isn't 100% certainty on any of this. But because there are always risks with an vaccine that has not been studied long-term, I don't personally believe it makes sense for groups that are not at high risk to get it.

My take is they hope to kill off the old folks.

I'll be polite and just say that I disagree with that. People who advocate bad policy, or who lie, are not always motivated by a blatant desire just to do evil. That's cartoon-villain crap.

Many times, and it is more true with scientusts/medical people than anyone else, it is pure arrogance, ego, the desire to cover ones own ass if you have made a mistake, etc..

That's actually a lot more dangerous than the moustache-twirling types who are purposefully doing something evil.

31 posted on 10/20/2022 6:08:54 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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I agree on younger than 30 and healthy people have not much to gain from the shots. Especially now since the variants are less potent than earlier versions.

By the same token, people with severe health risks and multiple comorbidities are probably better off skipping the shots. Best approach for them is social distancing at minimum, or even avoiding contact with strangers.


32 posted on 10/20/2022 9:54:28 AM PDT by entropy12
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

You are sadly misinformed and spreading pharma propaganda.


33 posted on 10/21/2022 7:56:41 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: antceecee

No - I’m just not a conspiracist.


34 posted on 10/21/2022 9:57:22 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

You are sarcastic when steady judgment is needed. How does that help anyone at all?


35 posted on 10/21/2022 11:08:46 PM PDT by antceecee
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You are sarcastic when steady judgment is needed. How does that help anyone at all?

First, I wasn't being sarcastic. I was completely serious.

Second, your post was conclusory, with no reasoning or detail provided. That helps nobody either, which is why I gave the response I did.

36 posted on 10/21/2022 11:59:37 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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If you mean I conclude you are a sarcastic poster with no intent to communicate and realistcally engage, you would have a point…”conclusory” what a crock!


37 posted on 10/22/2022 9:25:56 PM PDT by antceecee
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”conclusory” what a crock!" Not a crock. Here is the total content of the post you made that I called "conclusory": "You are sadly misinformed and spreading pharma propaganda."

That's literally all you aaid. So given that "conclusory" means "a conclusion or assertion for which no supporting evidence is offered", I think that is an entirely fair, "non-crocky" description of your post.

38 posted on 10/22/2022 9:37:29 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Looks like you lead with your chin…. Your comments are illustrative of your pro pharma BS. No need to look any further than your chin stirring a crock of … let’s call it spittle…. to be polite.


39 posted on 10/22/2022 9:54:06 PM PDT by antceecee
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