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Citizens being 'evacuated' in Kherson as commander of Russian forces says situation in Ukraine 'tense'
The Guardian ^ | October 18, 2022 | Pjotr Sauer

Posted on 10/18/2022 4:16:24 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: MeganC

“Cutting off water to an invader is a sovereign right. If the Russians want water they can go back to Russia. Or Hell. Whatever.”

Historically, yes. But we are in the 21st century now, and it could be considered a crime against humanity. One can only survive about three or four days without fresh water. And dying of thirst is brutal.

Here is some info on the matter:

https://casebook.icrc.org/case-study/water-and-armed-conflicts


21 posted on 10/18/2022 5:53:41 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: caww
“I do not want to sacrifice Russian soldiers in a guerrilla war against the hordes of fanatics armed by NATO. We have enough forces and technical means to force Ukraine to a complete surrender.”

That wasn't the tune he was singing last week.

22 posted on 10/18/2022 6:10:03 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: ought-six

“Could be”...by Russia and no one else.


23 posted on 10/18/2022 7:24:20 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Timber Rattler

“Ukraine Admits Crisis Bakhmut, Russian Drones Strike Ukraine, Musk Tweets Russia Jamming of Starlink”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRDH78cZDgE&t=4s

“Ukraine Reels From Missile/Drone Strikes, Zelensky 30% Energy Gone; Qatar, Europe Running out of Gas”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcSVhQTHlek


24 posted on 10/18/2022 8:09:46 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

“Russian forces are taking back”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRS7raNwxPc


25 posted on 10/18/2022 8:11:57 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Timber Rattler

Areas of Kherson are being evacuated due to flood risk from the possible destruction of the upstream dam at Kakhovka.

From the Governor:

ÄThere is an immediate danger of flooding of territories due to the planned destruction of the Kakhovskaya HPP dam and the release of water from the cascade of power plants upstream of the Dnieper. In such a situation, I took the difficult but correct decision to announce the organized relocation of the civilian population of Beryslav, Bilozersk, Snigiryivka, and Aleksandrovsk municipalities to the left bank of the Dnieper.

This decision is prompted by the creation of large-scale defensive fortifications so that any attack can be repelled. There is no place for civilians where the military operates. Let the Russian army carry out its task.

Under these conditions, our key task is to save human lives and allow the troops of the Russian Federation to effectively perform their functions in defending the Kherson region. We will be removing the civilian population to the left bank in an orderly, step-by-step manner.

For those residents of the region who decide to move on, to the regions of Russia, the Russian Government will provide housing certificates. This was specifically announced by Deputy Prime Minister Marat Khusnullin. The relocation and temporary accommodation of residents of Beryslavskiy, Bilozerskiy, Snigirevskiy, and Aleksandrovskiy municipalities will be free of charge, by the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Russian Federation and the Government of Kherson region.

I ask everyone to keep calm and not to listen to alarmists, Kherson region remains under the reliable protection of the Russian army. Our cause is just. We know it and our enemy knows it. And the victory will be ours.(So no panic just removing civilians to safe areas, removing them from danger if Kakhovka HPP is sabotaged in any way)”


26 posted on 10/18/2022 8:18:16 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

“Flooding zones and elevations around the dam of the Novaya Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant...”
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/15188?single


27 posted on 10/18/2022 8:19:46 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

“Ukraine attempts to attack, Russia grinds down enemy forces — commander”
https://tass.com/defense/1524515

“Russian troops persistently grinding down enemy forces in Ukraine operation — commander”
https://tass.com/defense/1524503


28 posted on 10/18/2022 8:23:54 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Timber Rattler

“Only 1 out of 13 Ukrainian Servicemen Survives. They Even Do Not See Russians, just Sea of Fire”
https://rumble.com/v1molmc-only-1-out-of-13-ukrainian-servicemen-survives.-wokenato-even-do-not-see-ru.html


29 posted on 10/18/2022 8:28:37 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

In summation: If the dam is destroyed, Kherson becomes indefensible, simple as that.

A link to the flood zones map was posted and anyone with any inclination of tactical and overall strategy can see such.


30 posted on 10/18/2022 9:09:31 PM PDT by cranked
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To: ought-six

Do you think that Crimea was completely uninhabited until the canal was completed in 1975? Even today, 80% of the water from that canal goes to agriculture. Nobody’s going to be dying of thirst in Sevastopol three days after Kherson is liberated.


31 posted on 10/18/2022 9:23:31 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: Timber Rattler
You should be aware of course that the battlefield never stays the same - so too do military commanders change their approach depending on many variables within any conflict. What they say will also reflect that.......tomorrow that could change again.

Until the dust finally settles nobody will know the outcome. One thing for certain - there will be no end to this conflict without diplomatic negotiations. ALL conflicts come to an end via that venue.

32 posted on 10/19/2022 12:06:28 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

“Do you think that Crimea was completely uninhabited until the canal was completed in 1975?”

Of course not.

“Even today, 80% of the water from that canal goes to agriculture.”

Which necessarily means that 20% went to people. Eliminate the fresh water source, and 100% of the fresh water from that canal becomes 0%.

“Nobody’s going to be dying of thirst in Sevastopol three days after Kherson is liberated.”

We were talking about the elimination of the fresh water source to Crimea; you are assuming that the liberation of Kherson automatically equates to the removal of fresh water to Crimea.
If Crimea gets 85% of all its fresh water from the canal, eliminating that source could have a catastrophic effect on Crimea and its population of some 3 million people. Agriculture would disappear. Water rationing for drinking would have to be imposed. Some people are not going to get enough. The extreme is not getting any. Hence, the three or four days.

Here is a link re: water supply to Crimea.

https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/backgrounder-the-water-crisis-in-crimea/#:~text=Crimea


33 posted on 10/19/2022 5:47:57 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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