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To: MeganC

This is sophisticated gaslighting. The intent is to always put the burden on Ukraine. How about instead Russians leave occupied Ukraine and go home? No more war and they can negotiate from Moscow until the cows come home.

Interestingly, the “it’s Ukraine’s fault” and “we need peace” crowd never suggest that Russia just stop its wanton mass murder and genocide and leave. Obviously they don’t really want peace and are happy to see Ukraine turned into parking lot.


21 posted on 10/18/2022 8:21:49 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

It’s also interesting that the pro-Russia crowd always ignore the fact that Russia encouraged, sponsored, and armed the separatist movement in eastern Ukraine, including introducing Russian troops into the fray. And Russia also illegally occupied and annexed Ukraine in 2014. All this BEFORE the Minsk Agreements. It was akin to someone breaking into your house, raping your daughter, and then saying, “Suck it up, buttercup. We can talk now; but on MY terms.”

The Minsk Agreements were flawed and unworkable from the get-go, that’s why they were constantly being tweaked, including the Steinmeier proposal which tried to salvage them; but, they remained unworkable.

The pro-Russia posters also conveniently ignore the Budapest Memorandum, which Russia signed, guaranteeing Ukrainian security. Russia reneged on that eight years ago.


39 posted on 10/18/2022 9:38:35 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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