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To: HKMk23

Actually, those who understand models well also understand that the output of a model is 100% dependent on the input to the model. Freeman Dyson, British scientist, understood this when he pointed out that all climate models are rubbish, as computationally correct weather models require scale down to well under one mile, which computationally is impossible to do. Our computers are not, and cannot be made fast enough for turbulent, chaotic systems in four dimensions.

Another way to explain this is to note the smallest possible computer that has the computational power to predict weather (and then only for up to 10 days maximum) are - either Earth itself, or an exact replica or Earth itself, also revolving around this Sun.

The climate ‘models’ all use fudge factors. Reason: when they didn’t use fudge factors, the Earth’s temperature would increase by about one degree per day. The fudge factors allow the model to have an artificially induced stability that calculations do not permit.

In other words, the basic models are flat-out wrong, and the creators of the models know this. Further, you or I couldn’t make a model significantly better that used computation, as we can’t model climate due to the small-scale effects.


182 posted on 10/15/2022 9:44:19 PM PDT by bIlluminati (Demonetize the Left. Buy nothing from them. Sell nothing to them. Shun them.)
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To: bIlluminati

Actually, those who understand models well also understand that the output of a model is 100% dependent on the input to the model”

In other words, garbage in, garbage out?

Using/Imputing faulty or manipulated data/information will invariably result in the output of faulty data based upon that faulty or manipulated data/information?


185 posted on 10/16/2022 11:45:29 AM PDT by cranked
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