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To: WinstonSmith1984

The comedian was elected in a free election in 2019, not in a color revolution in 2014. In 2014 Zelensky was still making movies.

And, note, it was not a close election. It was Zelensky vs Poroshenko. Zelensky won in every oblast save in the far west (the most anti-Russian).


57 posted on 10/10/2022 9:18:47 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

buwaya... that is some revisionist history you are pushing there... you are ignoring the color revolution in 2014. 2019 is a cats meow... the deed was done... by western self appointed elites... they took out the guy that Putin installed in Ukraine... Putin’s guy.. rigged for Putin.. yes of course. Regardless, everyone is lying... everyone. And the truth actually will work for the rest of the world... But it will destroy our self appointed elites... So the world will suffer while our elites lie... and we might actually have a nuclear war... just so self appointed elites like Lyndsey Graham aren’t exposed.


64 posted on 10/10/2022 9:30:26 PM PDT by WinstonSmith1984
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To: buwaya

The whole thing is about parochial nonsense and history, not current realities.

For Putin it’s about emulating Peter the Great and undoing the “catastrophe” of 1991.

For the pro Putin legacy Tea Party, it’s still all about the brown guy and his birth certificate, Biden and Nuland.

For pro Russian separatists it’s all about Poroshenko replacing Yanukovych... And Stephan Bandera, a very long dead dude.

For Azov, it’s all about Stephan Bandera being a lesser evil compared to Stalin. (”He may be a bastard but at least he’s our bastard”).

For Europe it’s about 30 years of fragile peace and cheap heating, and yet another tidal wave of refugees.

For ordinary Russians it’s all about (actually 5 that ended 3 years ago but the Kremlin says 8 ongoing, so...) years of genocide.

For most Ukrainians, Russia is at best a very arrogant bigger brother, at worst a toxic sibling who won’t deal with his own problems and just messes up everybody else’s lives with his drama.


109 posted on 10/11/2022 1:31:46 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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