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To: Eleutheria5

“’We’re hunting them down and shooting them like pigs’: How the Ukrainians are taking brutal revenge on the collaborators who’ve betrayed their neighbours - and country - to the Russians”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11284819/How-Ukrainian-intelligence-chiefs-tracking-collaborators-worked-Russians.html

“...Nazis massacring civilians in #Kupyansk”
https://t.me/EurasianChoice/20677

‘The Dark Side of Ukraine’
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/ukraine/the-dark-side-of-ukraine/


5 posted on 10/10/2022 1:17:38 PM PDT by cranked
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Once the Ukraine has re-conquered the city of Donetsk, the rest of the province should fall quickly.

Or maybe Russia just levels Kyiv? Seems like Z has pissed Vlad off with his little bridge stunt.

8 posted on 10/10/2022 1:22:19 PM PDT by Vlad0
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To: cranked

All very believable and worth investigating further. What can I say? War is hell, especially if you bet on the loser and you’re still there. The Russians in their march to Berlin were visiting holy hell on anyone suspected of collaborating with the erstwhile occupiers. The French were shaving the heads of collaborators, even prostitutes who serviced Germans, and they were beaten in the streets. The retribution-fest lasted for years.

The end of this article mentions the ambivalence of the residents to their “liberation,” for fear the Russians will be back on top eventually. It could be there is something more in back of it that they didn’t want to say out loud.

In general, you have very vindictive people in Europe, especially in the East. Since wars are less frequent, we don’t often see it now. But it’s lurking beneath the surface. Europeans don’t have a monopoly on vindictiveness, but they definitely are into it under the right conditions.


16 posted on 10/10/2022 2:54:49 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Free country? Good morning, Rip. )
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To: cranked

As I’ve pointed out before, these are atrocities, but not Nazi attrocities. Nazis are systematic and do slaughter wholesale. Muslims, African tribal fighters and Cossacks are brutal as a crime of passion, and do slaughter retail. Passion spent, they forget their rage and perhaps even regret it. The Nazis were not barbarians, which makes them all the more frightening. A German professor overseeing a gas chamber is a thing of evil, but not a barbarian. He couldn’t pass for a Cossack if he had to, because he is systematic and intellectual. He’s convinced himself that the people he’s gassing aren’t really people, but vermin and a menace to be eliminated neatly and cleanly. Much worse than a Cossack. These are Cossacks.


47 posted on 10/11/2022 7:43:07 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Free country? Good morning, Rip. )
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