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To: proust
“an apple can be red even when no one is looking”

Whoa, give this man a prize!


He was making a point, we are used to such givens as an apple being red whether we look at it or not.

That is not the case with quantum spin, the spin ONLY becomes apparent the moment we look at it. So in the case of the apple, if it behaved this way, it would take on a colour ONLY the first time we looked at it. Further no matter the distance between entangled quantum particles, once one of them establishes a spin the other will automatically establish the opposite.
30 posted on 10/08/2022 12:30:57 PM PDT by battousai (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: battousai

I believe such questions...such as the sound a tree makes as it falls...whether or not I’m there or no to observe the reality, are rooted in pride and hubris.

When we each and individually come to the conclusion that we are NOT NEEDED to be observers of a given object to establish the reality of it being, then we become closer to knowing God then we could, up to that point, have ever imagined. At that point there is a a pssibility that we can let go of a matter universe that we think we can cling to establish our own veracity, our own sense of solidity of person hood and instead we have the chance to allow God to establish his own reality in each of us thru Jesus Christ! It is not that the universe is “not real”, it is, but we become part of the reality of Jesus Christ who made all things, having been lifted out of that universe in spirit and into the Heart6 and reality that is God. I’m not talking about Buddhism or some sort of ancient heresy. Our flesh is still matter and it shall pass away as heaven and Earth shall pass away; but rather it is more that God dwells in us and we will know the fullness of what the reality is in the day of resurrection.

I believe God is truely omni present but we forget sometimes the chronological aspects of his omnipresence. Perhaps in the times when they were handing out labels to God like being Omniscient and Omnipresent...they should clarified his omnipresence to include the fact that he is Omnichronological...present in all places and permanently present across all time...past present and future. Such a “lifting out” or the “unpacking” of the time aspects in the descriptions of his omnipresence, give a broader dimensionality to Christ’s claims to be “Alpha and Omega, the fiirst and last” and to his mic drop moment when he declared, before eeasily angered clerics....”Before Abraham...I am!”


49 posted on 10/08/2022 1:59:10 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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