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Schools should stop teaching US history until they can get it right
Duluth News Tribune ^ | August 27, 2020 | LaShawn Ford and Charles V. Frederick

Posted on 10/07/2022 10:22:28 AM PDT by Fiji Hill

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To: Fiji Hill

Parents should stop sending their kids to public schools.


21 posted on 10/07/2022 11:14:13 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Radix; All
Public Schools are one of the biggest scams going in this country. Half the kids graduate and are unable to read. This is especially true in urban areas. I went to an urban area public school. I pretty much was reading before I entered the First Grade. By my teens I was completely bored with school, but I would read novels and history books. Most of my peers to this day have likely never even read a book. They seem to watch something called Kardasians and they give interviews to Mark Dice that make me cringe.

Indeed.

The are unionized. The Unions are huge money-laundering machines for the Democrat party.

The get away with all this because the Media is part of, maybe the controlling part, of the Democrat/Progressive machine.

22 posted on 10/07/2022 11:14:17 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Fiji Hill
I skimmed over the article -

1. I don't read articles that capitalize "black" and not "white."

2. I figured it was another ignorant lefty rant.

And, I wasn't wrong:

The way history is now being taught leads to a racist society, perpetuates white privilege, and overlooks the contributions of women and minorities.

This statement is not only wrong it is profoundly wrong. The contributions of blacks, women and other "minorities" is vastly overstated in school textbooks - while how this country was built and created is downplayed, if covered at all. Same for the Founding Documents, especially the Constitution.

The Founding Fathers are portrayed as evil slave holders who stole the idea for the Constitution from local Indian tribes.

This was obviously written by someone with complete ignorance of what is in U.S. high school history texts and what is being taught in American classrooms.

I say this as a public school teacher with 33 years of experience.

23 posted on 10/07/2022 11:15:38 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: Tench_Coxe
Yeah. The author wants to promote an ignorance/re-writing of history.

Grammar rules are racist, don't you know, proper grammar is a symbol and example of White Supremacism and privilege - as is using red ink when grading papers.

I wish I were kidding, but I'm not.

24 posted on 10/07/2022 11:18:08 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: cranked

Public schools don’t teach, they indoctrinate.


25 posted on 10/07/2022 11:20:56 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: Fiji Hill

This is another “Big Lie” pushed by the Left and makes about as much sense as Rich people got rich stealing from the poor.


26 posted on 10/07/2022 11:22:03 AM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: DownInFlames
Public schools don’t teach, they indoctrinate.

If you're lucky you might get one good class/teacher a year, like a good science teacher or math teacher. but then again, that was back when I was in H.S., I imagine they're all bad now.

27 posted on 10/07/2022 11:22:41 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Fiji Hill

I’m going to eat my peanut butter sandwich while standing on my linoleum floor...


28 posted on 10/07/2022 11:24:42 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Fiji Hill
Enslaved people built our young nation and made possible an economy that would throw off the control of the most powerful country then on earth, Great Britain.

No they didn't. They picked cotton. Chinese laborers who worked on the railroads had far more impact on our growth as a nation.

29 posted on 10/07/2022 11:28:30 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Fiji Hill

LaShawn Ford and Charles V. Frederick are what’s wrong with government school education.


30 posted on 10/07/2022 11:30:10 AM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: jobim
"We own the history."

Unfortunately, we don't.

We own it in its original form, but that original form is unknown. But the original form of history hasn't been taught in generations.

Our Founders were deeply Christian. That's been taken out of schools for decades. Nobody knows what Natural Law is coming out of a school and its written right into the Declaration of Independence.

Additionally about our Founders, many were actively abolitionist. Good luck finding a student who knows that from a teacher.

On abolition, I guarantee you that every single student without exception - 100% of them, think that abolitionism began in Britain and eventually spread here. The opposite is true. That was an American idea in the context of transatlantic slavery.

Slavery was largely European; European ships, European cargo, European ports; and prior to that, sourced entirely from slave traders in Africa. All taken out. They even blame the U.S. for times when the U.S. didn't even exist - prior to 1776.

Gun control was a major contributor to the revolution. Taken out decades ago.

The role of wealth redistribution at Plymouth. Taken out a century ago.

Heck, the Founders themselves are largely eliminated at this point. At best students are going to discover the existence of maybe five memorable people. Not the nearly hundred that had major roles.

And additionally, the progressives have erased their own history to prevent us from learning it and using it against them.

If we wanted to actually do something significant with history, we could. However, there are very few citizen historians out there. So the history sits there, unprotected from progressive manipulation. Unused to restore the country.

Progressives are free to cover it up and hide it with impunity. When they're out there removing statues of Abraham Lincoln, its obvious that history is in shambles.

This book, written over a century ago, directly blames Britain for slavery in America, and with good evidence. See chapters 4 and 8.

https://librivox.org/the-wrong-of-slavery-by-robert-dale-owen/

We own it in its original form, but that original form is unknown.

31 posted on 10/07/2022 11:32:05 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (A man's rights rest in 3 boxes. The ballot box, jury box and the cartridge box.- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Fiji Hill

Lie #1: “Enslaved people built our young nation and made possible an economy that would throw off the control of the most powerful country then on earth,...”


32 posted on 10/07/2022 11:40:41 AM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: ProgressingAmerica

My remark was intended sarcasm, parroting that Globalist woman saying that same ohrase but about science.


33 posted on 10/07/2022 11:53:38 AM PDT by jobim
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To: Fiji Hill

Schools should just shrivel up and die. Government control of schools is one of Marx’s requirements to lead society into Socialism.


34 posted on 10/07/2022 12:13:04 PM PDT by Intar
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To: Intar
I should follow up and correct my statement a bit:

Government run schools should shrivel up and die.

35 posted on 10/07/2022 12:14:32 PM PDT by Intar
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To: Fiji Hill

Full disclosure: I have not read the article. Though, I have read a lot of history books, primarily the classics, such as the “Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire”, David Hume’s “History of England”, and permit me to say for brevity, several on the specific histories of the individual European nations, including eastern Europe (I used to fly a lot for work and used that time to read).

Let me start by saying “History is written by the victors”. In terms of hard truths, history is pretty much a matter of perspective, and often reflective of the author’s notion of what the “historical facts” are, or were at the time of writing. History is unlike the physical sciences where proofs can be independently verified. Histories are many times written based upon faulty memories, conjecture, and/or sometimes on outright falsehoods.

A good understanding of history requires the consideration of numerous viewpoints, an understanding of the issues, and the culture of the era that is under study. Introducing alternate theories is beneficial, if they are provided for comparison, but not if they become the focal point, and in essence become propaganda.

In short, I don’t thing that anyone can ever “get it right”, given that what is “right” is personalized, and not universally applicable.


36 posted on 10/07/2022 12:39:16 PM PDT by FMBass (USN vet DE-1074 Retired Chem E)
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To: Radix

“The truth is that at least in my area, Teachers make a darn good living. They do not work nights, week ends, holidays, Summers, and they get 1 week out of 10 off during their 180 day work year. They rarely spend 7 hours at work, and God forbid if it snows out. Their pensions are fantastic as are their health and other benefits.”

So, why didn’t you become a teacher?


37 posted on 10/07/2022 1:28:10 PM PDT by clive bitterman
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To: cranked

American public schools haven’t been teaching actual US History since at least 1865. Just ask that twit Homer Simpson to quote you some of his fairy tales. History is written by the victors, and we’ve handed over that distinction to the leftests, now, just as we handed it to the Yankees a hundred and fifty years ago. Quit yer bitchin.


38 posted on 10/07/2022 1:46:03 PM PDT by Segovia
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To: Fiji Hill

The public schools don’t have anyone qualified to teach the true American history. The RAT version claims all of our ancestors were homosexuals and drag queens.


39 posted on 10/07/2022 1:48:19 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Let's Go Brandon! FJB.)
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To: Radix
The truth is that at least in my area, Teachers make a darn good living. They do not work nights, week ends, holidays, summers, and they get 1 week out of 10 off during their 180 day work year.

They do, indeed, work nights, weekends and holidays grading papers, developing curriculum, writing "measurable objectives" reports for government agencies, etc. They also have to attend classes and workshops to renew their credentials.

40 posted on 10/07/2022 1:57:39 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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