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To: Timber Rattler

These threads always devolve into ugliness and nasty. It is a shame.

This war is a tragic waste and there is blame on all sides from where I sit. That does not make me a fan of Putin so save your keyboard clicks.

Absent the tragedy I am beginning to rethink my objective assessment about the inevitable victory of Russia given their size and resources vs the Ukraine.

IF your soldiers refuse to fight it does not matter if you have a million men under arms. The will to fight is the foundation of any military action.

I don’t know that this is true and its difficult to decipher what is propaganda and what is real. I don’t think many people understand the apathy of the Russian people towards their leaders. The leaders are the oligarchs and they have become extremely wealthy. The people are dirt poor with few prospects and I don’t think they have much loyalty to the leaders.

If Putin can not sell his people on the idea that the Ukraine is a hill to die on AND that he and his administration are capable of prosecuting the war successfully then he has lost. What comes next might be far more dangerous because it will be hard for him to survive anything viewed as a “defeat”.

I don’t know if this is happening or maybe I am just flat out wrong, but that now seems to be the biggest question that will be answered in the coming weeks.


7 posted on 10/05/2022 10:06:12 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: volunbeer

Hi.

I don’t know either. Propaganda out the ying yang from both sides. And imho both leaders are corrupt.

Just like Congress and the alphabet agencies.

From a military standpoint it seems like Russia wasn’t prepared for a long term conflict. To wit:

Poorly trained and equiped consripts
No NCO cadre
Logistics failures too numerous to list
No combined arms doctrine or tactics
Absolutely no battle space management.

The whole thing is a charlie foxtrot.

5.56mm


41 posted on 10/05/2022 3:27:05 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go.)
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