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Europe’s descent into deindustrialisation
The Spectator (UK) ^ | 29 September 2022 | Philip Pilkington

Posted on 09/30/2022 5:53:47 PM PDT by Mount Athos

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1 posted on 09/30/2022 5:53:47 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos
This is what happens when you turn your economies over to socialist academics—disaster.

2 posted on 09/30/2022 5:56:06 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Mount Athos

The goal of most of Europe (including the UK) was to make Greta Thunberg happy. The goal of the United States was to make Al Gore happy.

Europe and the United States are now in an energy crisis. So I suppose Greta and Al are both happy. Is anybody else happy?


3 posted on 09/30/2022 6:02:39 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Mount Athos
The Nord Stream sabotage could be the point at which future historians mark the end of western dominance.

Thanks Joe.

4 posted on 09/30/2022 6:02:44 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. )
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

The developing world will continue clambering aboard the BRICS bandwagon. The third world already knows what the west is headed for. The third world has already had enough of that action.


5 posted on 09/30/2022 6:15:53 PM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Mount Athos

The Budenstang or whatever Germany calls their Parliament vote three to one AGAINST sending any more weapons to Ukraine.

They are starting to wake up there and are figuring out that their real enemy is to the West (the guys who bombed their energy lifeline), not to the East, but it’s probably too late.


6 posted on 09/30/2022 6:16:50 PM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 39 degrees (burrr))
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To: Mount Athos

This is what I’ve been saying too. It’s simple math. The oil and LNG need to flow at a certain rate to allow businesses to continue manufacturing.

From what I read, if it’s correct, the Polish LNG pipeline has a 10 BT capacity while the Nord Stream 1&2 had a 105 BT capacity. Math tells us the priority will be for keeping people alive; not manufacturing. It takes a lot of LNG to make fertilizer so none of that.

Ergo the EU will be plunged into a pre-industrial age unless other means can be found to deliver the needed oil and LNG products. I’m guessing trains and ships will be used. Both add risk to transporting over the pipeline method. We learned that with the Keystone pipeline Bumblin’ Xiden cancelled so trains must be used instead. Stupid and unnecessary but it was always about who stood to make the most money; not what was safest and best for the environment.

It’s almost like the goal is to kill off all the white people... oh gosh. You don’t think.............


7 posted on 09/30/2022 6:20:11 PM PDT by Boomer ( What's the difference between Nazi Germany in 1932 and the USA in 2022? 5k miles and 90 years.)
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To: Mount Athos

What would Kondratiev do?


8 posted on 09/30/2022 6:22:02 PM PDT by posterchild
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To: Mount Athos

This has been happening for years. Britain became a ‘service industry’ years ago when I lived there. And brought in foreigners to the factories years before that.


9 posted on 09/30/2022 6:42:09 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Mount Athos

And the Yurps still haven’t shaken off their irresistible urge to bow down and sacrifice to Gaia.

It was like pulling teeth to get Britain to lift the ban on fracking.

The Germans agreed to not shut down their last 3 remaining nuclear power plants immediately. Instead they’ve planned that for a few months from now.

Nobody is mining coal. Nobody in Europe is fracking. No new nuclear power plants are being built. They have the technology to generate the energy they need. They just don’t want to - even though they know their economies and their standards of living are staring into the abyss.

I guess they just haven’t felt enough pain yet.


10 posted on 09/30/2022 7:06:33 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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Their real enemy isn’t to the West. Their real enemy is in their own heads. They could fix this problem. They could have kept themselves from ever becoming so utterly dependent on Russian gas in the first place.


11 posted on 09/30/2022 7:08:22 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Mount Athos

they promise the jetsons
you get the flintstones


12 posted on 09/30/2022 7:12:35 PM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: FLT-bird

“Their real enemy isn’t to the West. Their real enemy is in their own heads.”

Very true...if they don’t figure that out, then they’ll keep finding new ways to commit suicide.


13 posted on 09/30/2022 7:14:09 PM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 40 degrees)
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14 posted on 09/30/2022 7:54:51 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: Mount Athos

The simple fact is that economies run on cheap energy, and when the Neocons blew up those pipelines, they consigned Europe to a third world economic status. When they finally wake up and see what the US lead them into they will not be happy. They should have listened to Henry Kissinger who once said: “To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be its friend is fatal.” They are about to find out exactly what that means.


15 posted on 09/30/2022 9:30:41 PM PDT by jimwatx
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Re: BRICS Bandwagon

Really?

70% of the people who live in the Less Developed World want to emigrate to the USA, Europe, or Can-Aus-NZ.

On the flip side - almost no working age person in the USA, Europe, or Can-Aus-NZ wants to emigrate to a Second or Third World country.

16 posted on 09/30/2022 10:05:49 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: FLT-bird
No new nuclear power plants are being built.

Untrue. Here in the UK the construction of Hinkley C is well advanced, Sizewell C about to start, and a programme of 'mini' reactors for decommissioned former nuclear sites currently under development.

17 posted on 10/01/2022 12:08:53 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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I was unaware. That’s a good start. Take that and multiply it X10 and you might have something.


18 posted on 10/01/2022 4:07:26 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: jimwatx

The US led them into utter dependence on Russia for their energy?....or was it idiotic Gaia worship led them into that?


19 posted on 10/01/2022 4:08:50 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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Sure you could say that Europe’s own domestic energy policies contributed to the situation, but that doesn’t excuse the US blowing up a gas pipeline that leaves them in a seriously vulnerable position. That is normally something you would consider an act of war, not the action of a “friendly” nation.

Now of course the US is forced to lie about it, but it’s unlikely those Euro countries will believe such a flimsy lie. It was strictly a self serving action by the US, intentionally severing their ability to access cheap energy from Russia and forcing them to become dependent on the much more expensive LNG from the US.


20 posted on 10/01/2022 5:58:39 AM PDT by jimwatx
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