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To: semimojo

That’s the part that is hard for people to keep in mind.
It is happening in a court room, so people think it’s the government doing it, but if it’s a civil suit and not criminal prosecution, then it’s brought by people, not the government, and not protected by the first amendment.

However, that’s not all black and white. Why is it that the press and “news” organizations can basically outright lie, and they DO seem to get protections by the court? I have heard that defamation is harder to win if it’s against the press, because they have some kind of protections. In a civil suit that shouldn’t matter, should it?

I’m not rooting for an ever increasing litigious society, but I believe Sandman successfully sued some “news” organizations, so there are examples you can sympathize with.


43 posted on 09/23/2022 5:53:17 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: z3n

But he is protected by the 1st, and would have won this thing hands down based on the 1st if he had just showed up to court during the first phase of the case. But because he didn’t show to defend himself it was handed to his accusers by default.

“It is happening in a court room, so people think it’s the government doing it, but if it’s a civil suit and not criminal prosecution, then it’s brought by people, not the government”

Oh you can bet the government is behind it, helping with it, and promoting it 100% by proxy. The timing is far too convenient for the government at this particular time.


49 posted on 09/23/2022 6:05:49 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: z3n

“then it’s brought by people, not the government,”

Just coming off the revelation that the Gov is working with Facebook to censor.... this is not a given anymore... if it ever really was.

Love him or hate him, Jones has been over the target on a lot of things.


56 posted on 09/23/2022 6:28:58 AM PDT by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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