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Electric demand to outpace capacity for New Mexico utilities
The Associated Press ^ | September 22, 2022 | By SUSAN MONTOYA BRYAN

Posted on 09/22/2022 5:58:21 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: eyeamok
Can’t they just put more outlets in the homes

That was a joke right?

21 posted on 09/22/2022 6:47:47 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The summertime spike in electric demand is generally not as great in NM (and the dry, arid regions of the west compared to most of the US). This is because the most common AC cooling is with good ‘ol swamp coolers. Very low humidity and many if not most residences and surprisingly large businesses do fine with evaporative coolers.

I don't know all the details now but there used to be LOTS of power generation from NW New Mexico. It was (and is?) a BIG exporter of electricity to Southern California via coal and natural gas power plants.

I'm not familiar with coal fields in NW New Mexico but there is major natural gas production. I suspect most coal is via train from Wyoming. I think most of the natural gas production is from regional BLM lands (federal leases). Little if any natural gas production on the Navajo reservation. Their choice on tribal land.

22 posted on 09/22/2022 6:51:31 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: TigersEye
Everyone buy an EV and destroy the oil and gas industries.

Exactly! Why do you think the utility companies are closing so many fossil fuel generating stations?

Hat tip to Red Badger for the meme.

23 posted on 09/22/2022 7:00:55 PM PDT by upchuck (The longer I remain unjabbed with the clot-shot, the more evidence I see supporting my decision.)
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To: eyeamok
Can’t they just put more outlets in the homes

What a terrific idea! And while they're about it, they can make sure at least one of the outlets can handle clean, green, low polluting EVs.

24 posted on 09/22/2022 7:09:13 PM PDT by upchuck (The longer I remain unjabbed with the clot-shot, the more evidence I see supporting my decision.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I think much of New Mexico has peak solar hours per day averaging above 6.

If you live in NM and own your home, quit expecting the control-freak Dims to make the energy right. Do solar on your own. You have more daily peak solar hours than I do in Alabama, plus your practically zero humidity air filters an even tinier portion of sun rays than our humid air here does. Last but not least, solar will work many times better for you than it does for the utility because control-freak bureaucrats won't be managing your system -- you'll be managing it.

It won't be a 100% solution -- you won't be able to completely go off grid without spending a lot (anything beyond 80% to 90% independence runs headwind into the law of diminishing returns). But you'll be the one on the block with power, you won't worry anymore about sky high rates messing up your budget, you'll run your A/C however cool you want, and if you're smart you won't export even the slightest spark onto the grid because that would make you subject to their "solar generator" fees and rules like you having to shut off your power whenever their crappy 3rd world managed grid goes down.

It's not feasible for folks in the northern half of the U.S. to do this. But to those of us who own homes in the southern half of the U.S., especially in the southwest, if you're still grumbling a year from now about the Dims dimming your lights, it's your fault.

25 posted on 09/22/2022 7:14:19 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: upchuck

Horses will get scarce and very valuable.


26 posted on 09/22/2022 7:21:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (The Democrat Party is criminal, unAmerican and illegitimate )
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To: Lockbox

Thanks for that. I hadn’t heard about it before, despite being from the area and that used to be among my ‘old stompin’ grounds’. In the old days, I did some mining work in Red Cloud Canyon, including the Red Cloud Mine, which I assume is the source of the project name.


27 posted on 09/22/2022 7:29:53 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Just raise taxes- sure cure.


28 posted on 09/22/2022 8:14:19 PM PDT by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know? Homer Simpson)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Or are we a nation of idiots”.
We are a nations tuck with a bunch of idiots.
We had our chance in 1865b to fix it and we let a Republican, do what they always do, snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.


29 posted on 09/22/2022 8:21:30 PM PDT by rellic
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To: TigersEye

Greta sorta = “Great”

We’re saved!


30 posted on 09/22/2022 9:46:13 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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31 posted on 09/22/2022 10:36:01 PM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“... ability of manufacturers to fill orders for items such as solar panels ...”

There’s their problem right there - “green” energy.


32 posted on 09/23/2022 5:31:29 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The part about the green plan they don’t tell you about.

Won’t be operating as planned.


33 posted on 09/23/2022 8:07:02 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: Hootowl99
The woke winds of climate change have come to New Mexico.

The summertime spike in electric demand is generally not as great in NM (and the dry, arid regions of the west compared to most of the US). This is because the most common AC cooling is with good ‘ol swamp coolers. Very low humidity and many if not most residences and surprisingly large businesses do fine with evaporative coolers.
Yes and no. Evaporative cooling, mostly for residential use, is great through the dry months of April, May and June but when monsoon winds bring moisture and high humidity, they do not provide good cooling. Newer homes can come with both types of cooling, evaporative and refrigeration, and residents switch over when desired. And of course most businesses, schools and government buildings use some type of refrigeration.

I don't know all the details now but there used to be LOTS of power generation from NW New Mexico. It was (and is?) a BIG exporter of electricity to Southern California via coal and natural gas power plants.
Those coal plants are the ones being shut down. The Page Arizona plant at Glen Canyon Dam is already shut down (and water levels in Lake Powell may soon reduce hydroelectric generation). The coal-powered San Juan Generating Station, providing power to New Mexico, will be shut down this fall after being allowed to continue electric power generation this past summer because of a lack of renewables. The Four Corners Generating Station on Navajo Reservation land that provides power to Arizona will reduce operation and become summertime backup until 2031 when it too will be shut down.

I'm not familiar with coal fields in NW New Mexico but there is major natural gas production. I suspect most coal is via train from Wyoming.
Lots of coal in the San Juan Basin in New Mexico. The power plants mentioned above all have a local source of coal and water (the San Juan River) to produce electricity. There are no railroads into the area.

I think most of the natural gas production is from regional BLM lands (federal leases). Little if any natural gas production on the Navajo reservation. Their choice on tribal land.
There is natural gas and coal gas in the basin but most of the mineral rights are federal, especially on tribal lands. Just in the past few days, the DOI Secretary Deb Haaland, a Pueblo Indian herself, denied Navajo nation permits for drilling on tribal lands. So what we have now is all we are going to have until the winds of change again make it to Washington.

34 posted on 09/23/2022 11:10:50 AM PDT by CedarDave (Pfizer's boosters: You just turned your immune system's functionality into a subscription service!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And here in NM the brain-dead legislature already has passed into law that we will follow California’s EPA rules, which includes no sales of ICE vehicles after 2035. Most residents aren’t even aware. It is gonna come as a shock.

I believe I read somewhere that it would take 65,000 acres of solar panels to compensate for the coal plant they are shutting down. Idiots.

PNM will be buying power from out of state. They will not have the cost of generating it themselves. They will mark up the price they are buying it for and pass it on to the consumers. It is a win-win for them, but it means higher prices for us. They can just keep delaying the “green” projects indefinitely.


35 posted on 09/23/2022 1:55:53 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: CedarDave
Thanks…

I'm long gone from NM, rarely get back there…. Last time was about 4 years ago. Went camping for a month towards Questa and Red River. That trip was the first time in 35 years that I had been to Taos. Unrecognizable to me. Changes were not for the better.

In the early 90s, I set up a fake office in Albuquerque. Living in Roanoke, VA at the time. My company bid on a state of NM contract and it was restricted to companies with a NM based office. I located an ABQ business services company and signed up for their mail and telephone services. Instant local address and telephone answering in the company's name. Printed a new set of business cards and gave myself a promotion to regional manager. When I got back to Roanoke, I told my boss that I had promoted myself and was forgiven.

Those 4-corners lows that spin up and head east are infamous in OK and panhandle TX for wicked weather. Tornados when it's hot and ice when it's cold.

Cheers…

36 posted on 09/23/2022 3:03:46 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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