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To: Steve Van Doorn

🇺🇸 For the record, I am a hard core conservative and unashamed Believer in Christ. I left the Republican Party to become an Independent at the end of Reagans second term, because of the RNC’s moral and anti-free market compromises with what was already a long known dominantly socialist DNC, as well as the RNC’s own leftist social and economic trajectory. I don’t throw around false and now cheapened moniker’s and names unless they are a reality.


Before spending a lifetime in uniform and as a DoD civilian thereafter, I spent nearly a decade in Moscow, working in both official and volunteer capacities, and greatly appreciated all of my time there.

We were exposed to a whole lot of unexpected reality, both friendly and bad.

I have of course also spent significant time alone and on teams across Ukraine, Eastern, Central, and Western Europe.


I do not anticipate you will be able to read with comprehension the following, as it is long and will not fit your truly misinformed world view.

Right out of the gate, fundamentally, the ideologies of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (NAZI), and the Bolshevik’s Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR/CCCP) were at their core centralized humanistic socialist states, NOT disassociated with what had become a humanistic gnosticism taught within the pre-Bolshevic Russian Orthodox Church (ROC), which not surprisingly also significantly impacted Marx 1840’s gnostic humanist Communist religiosity and beliefs.

It is not surprising that pre-Bolshevic Russia experienced a horrific and sometimes violent feminist movement, which also included a marked explosion in sodomy.

Fundamentally, while not the same in one key point, both the Communist and NAZI ideologies were mere outward political manifestations of what would be Humanist Manifesto’s I & II, and tbe related Communist Manifesto’s I & II.

As to history, no one on FreeRepublic should need to discover the pre WWII genocidal atrocities of Lenin and Stalin and the death Marxist Communism brought and enabled through them for generations.

Nor should most on FreeRepublic be devoid of knowledge regarding Stalin and Hitler’s joint plan to divide and subjugate Eastern Europe, even while they both had greater hidden ideas.

The number of pre WWII dead in Soviet Russia, Ukraine, and the entire CCCP due to Communist thuggery, regardless of low-ball leftist revisionist figures or the more likely higher figures, is in the tens of millions of people.

The number of pre WWII dead in Ukraine proper, including from both Lenin and Stalin led revolutions (including the Russian “White Revolution”), ranges from near 30 million on the low end, to over 40 million on the high end (with substantive birth and edu records available, but death certificates/documentation largely whiped out to scale by Stalin directed CCCP directives, and due to intentional records loss within the large scale Siberian deportations.

As with other large scale nationalities deported (many to Central Asia and Siberia), the death records are often intentionally non-existent, yet there were stull records. Even rough state records.

Not all, but many millions of people deported died enroute to camps, or were never seen or heard from again.

Many millions (including millions of women and children), were intentionally starved to death, and farms and property taken by the state.

Many are unaware Stalin took the Baltics and other peripheral lands before Hitler went into Poland. High percentages of those populations were also killed or deported to camps across CCCP Asia.


Moving forward in time -

In a nutshell, beginning with Barbarossa, through the NAZI occupation and control of Ukraine (1941-1945), approximately 5.8 Million more Ukrainian’s died. (This took place after Lenin and Stalin communist revolutions, and forced starvation wiped out somewhere North of 12 Million Ukrainian people.

Specific to Ukraine, many millions were then lput into German slave labor camps. These are big numbers, and the camps consisted largely of both Ukrainian Slavs and Jews.

http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkpath=pages%5CN%5CA%5CNaziwarcrimesinUkraine.htm

However, while they were wrong on different levels, at the onset of the brutal Nazi takeover and occupation of Ukraine, some hoped the Germans would beat Stalins Red Army (as Ukraine had been brutalized by Stalin), and chose to side with the NAZI’s.

For many of these it was not ideological alignment but superficial, as they recognizedbthed the common relationship between the Russian Communist and the German National Socialist, and were trying to save and preserve their children in a country where many millions of Ukrainian’s were already intentionally wiped out before WWII.

This didn’t go well, as the NAZI’s (national socialists) saw Slavs as un-evolved and inferior, and only good for mass slave labor, as opposed to many of Putins inner circle today who see Slavs as the more evolved race. We saw this recently when reading some of the statements of the recently assassinated Dugina, who in her own writing saw White Russian’s as the more evolved master race.

Millions of Ukrainian’s were made slaves while under Nazi rule and control. Some estimates are as high as 12 Million Ukrainian slave laborers.

(Interestingly, some of the deadly constructuin of large scale underground installation/facility projects begun by Stalin in the mid 1920’s, (well before WWII, and constructed by Slavic and Jewish slave labor), continued under Nazi rule in Ukraine, only to be continued again under Soviet re-occupation post WWII)

IT IS NUTS !

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Lots of national friendly revisionist/cover-up history exists out there, but Post WWII was one big ugly cluster —

https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Forced_labor_of_Germans_after_World_War_II?file=Lager-Moschendorf-Denkmal.jpg

During and after WWII Stalin took ma y Germans as slaves.

While certainly not alone, Russia today has a substantial German population due to that period of its history.

Additionally, (and again not alone), but due in part to WWII, there are a significant number Slavic neo-Nazi organizations across Russia, with some of these being large and influential across the EU, and even with ties to North and South America fascist/Nazi organizations.

As well, FSB and third party paramilitary organizations have indeed utilized these, and substantially to weaken Ukraine since the early 2000’s.

🔹️ There has been a much greater Nazi problem in Ukraine than most know about, but by far it isn’t just a bunch of Ukrainian Nazi’s, as it has been substantially actual Russian Nazi’s.

Some of those involved have been bold enough to go on national televised programs in Russia as seen below -

https://www.memri.org/dttm/foreign-fighters-least-35-neo-nazi-white-supremacist-and-ultranationalist-groups-based-us-texas

https://informnapalm.org/en/russian-neo-nazis-in-the-ranks-of-wagner-pmc/

https://bitterwinter.org/nazism-in-ukraine-7-russian-propaganda/

https://bitterwinter.org/nazism-in-ukraine-6-pro-russian-nazi-fighters/

Whatever you do, don’t scroll down and look at these pics -

https://newslanc.com/tsukerman-russian-nazi-volunteers-in-donbas/

🔹️ Joint Russian Communist/Nazi alliance fighting in Donbas to take Eastern Ukraine for Russia —

Communist and NAZI’s supported and fighting together

https://www.outono.net/elentir/2022/03/01/the-alliance-of-pro-russian-communists-and-nazis-fighting-against-ukraine-in-donbas/

🔹️ SENT FROM RUSSIA TO UKRAINE —

https://khpg.org/en/1608809502

https://khpg.org/en/1445287320

Russian 8th Army in Ukraine Interaction —

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_separatist_forces_in_Donbas

Poor saps...

🔹️ As happened in Syria, Georgia, and even Libya, Putin won’t allow the world to know who they were, or their families to be compensated, as it would tip the world off that Putin and his FSB have been funding, training, and using actual RUSSIAN neo-NAZI’s to destabilize Ukraine since at least 2004/2005, and much more since 2012.

Their deaths would reveal how Moscow has literally been training and supporting neo-NAZI’s, and not just in Eastern Ukraine —

Truth be told, there is a lot more, and the following is only a fraction —

I have personally spent time proximal to метро Комсамольская (Metro Station Commsamolskaya, North Central Moscow), and been to two of it’s modern global socialist news/newspaper offices. (And yes, the rumors of 20th Century, all male bathhouses were/are correct.

Today, the Young Communist organization has other more nationalistic associated entities, and is still associated with Ria Novosti (KGB/FSB) downtown Moscow.

Komsamol — was and is the Young Communist organization HQ’d in Moscow, really consisted of ages 13 up to 29 years olds, with the parent organization having been the Communist Party of Soviet Union, and is still funded by Communist Internationale (also substantially involved ed with the Gorbachev Foundation and Green Cross, which largely authored UN Agenda’s 21 and 30), and multiple socialist parties within current government (including “Novorossiya”).

And we aren’t even talking about Putin’s other “boyz” clubs.

Interestingly, “Novorossiya” is a coalition party which also consists of these —

https://cisac.fsi.stanford.edu/mappingmilitants/profiles/russian-imperial-movement

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🔹️ Going further —

Elements of an associated team I worked with on a different project, once provided significant information to an anti NAZI research project called CISAC at Stanford (as the Stanford study was already well along), and SIGACT details of neo-NAZI research and financial ties and kinetic attacks (INCLUDING to very recent), on foreign soil, including in Ukraine, the Balkans, Germany, Spain, France, and half dozen countries in Latin America, and Mexico, Canada, and the US.

It also provided proof of DIRECT historical financing and training ties to historic NKVD/KGB, the modern FSB and GRU, and current Spetsnaz units.

Many of these have direct ties to Putin’s past and current FSB, GRU, and Russian and Chinese state security associated NGO’s and related POI’s, some of which are currently operational and involved organizationally in human trafficking in Mexico, Nicaragua, Guatamala, El Salvador, Panama, Peru, Venezuela, etc...

But that is another Western Hemisphere FSB/GRU/MSS issue.

🔹️ It has been estimated by several colleagues of mine (including Russian), as well as some honest Russian folks over at Ria Novosti (before we were “closed out” in the mid 1990’s by an abruptly anti-American FSB order), there may well be significantly more than a million neo-Nazi”s in and from Russia.

🔹️ Additionally, this is not disassociated as an an “enemies foreign and domestic” conspiracy to not only destabilize Ukraine, but a mere part of a larger US Destabilization itself.

Leftist Russian neo-NAZI proxy organizations of course range from small to very large, and involved in multiple government parties and funded by “mega-billionaire Russian oligarchs -

- RIM (including “Partizan”//”Guerilla”)
- Imperial Legion
- DPNI
- ROD
- United Russia Party
- Russian Ethno Political Association
(REPA)
- RGS
- Moscow Defense League
- New Force
- Orthodox Nationalist
- NSI - Opposition Coordination Counsel
neo-Nazi National Socialist Initiative (NSI)
- National Democratic Party of Russia (NDP)
- Russian All-National Union (large RONS umbrella)
- REPA and other subordinates
- Slavic Force (SS)
- Russian National Front
- Rodina
- The Last Crusade

There are several others. As well, there is the frequent merger, or break-off organization, and constant evolution surrounding the greater national socialist movement globally.

🔹️ Many have been, or are associated with a formal umbrella political party called *Novorossiya*, but not exclusive.

Subsequently, while well published, these groups have mostly “escaped” Russian law enforcement and FSB scrutiny, and even provided known cover -

🔹️ SOP’s are also aligned with longstanding and KNOWN FSB political an national “Destabilization by Corruptive Mean’s and Measures” of foreign governments.

🔹️ Some of the joint investigative teams referred to as part of a larger Asymmetric Political Destabilization unit within the FSB itself.

Statements of some of these Russian Neo-NAZI organizations, literally mirror FSB FOREIGN DESTABILIZATION doctrine —

🔹️ “Vorobyev has stated that the greatest threat to the Russian nation is “the stability of anti-Russian regimes on all the territory inhabited by the Russian ethnos.”

“In its intervention in Ukraine, RIM saw an opportunity to destabilize the Kiev government and further its objective of protecting ethnic Russians.”

“In March 2015, the group attended the International Russian Conservative Forum, a conference for white supremacists held in St. Petersburg, Russia which was organized by Rodina, a far-right Russian political party.

[*Not any part of this info was the focus, but we were able to tie funding to multiple Kremlin oligarch accounts, including from Sberbank among others, as well as several foreign banks.]

Other attendees included U.S. white supremacists, such as Jared Taylor, who serves as the editor of the U.S. white supremacist publication American Renaissance.

Also in attendance were European extreme-right organizations, including:

- Golden Dawn (Greece)

- National Democratic Party (Germany)

- Forza Nuova (Italy)

In September 2015, RIM leader Vorobyev traveled to Sweden to meet with the Nordic Resistance Movement (NRM), a neo-Nazi group active across Scandinavian countries and spoke at the NRM’s “Nordic Days” event.

In June 2015, RIM joined Rodina in co-founding the World National Conservative Movement (WNCM). A network of extreme-right groups from around the world, WNCM opposes multi cultural societies, and other liberal values, according to its manifesto.

The network promotes the use of violence in service of its ideology.

🔹️ RIM invited over 50 extreme-right, white supremacist, and neo-Nazi groups from 28 countries to join WNCM, including:

National Democratic Party (Germany)

Nordic Resistance Movement (Sweden)

American Freedom Party (United States)

and many others. Some of these have direct ties to FSB and GRU associated banking, drug trade, arms, and human trafficking related NAZI organizations in Mexico, Nicaragua, Guatemala, El Salvador, Cuba, Peru, Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina and Chile. -

A larger partial list of WNCM-affiliated organizations can be seen under “Relations with other groups” in joint CISAC profile.

RIM leaders intended the WNCM network to facilitate the sharing of tactical fighting skills across peer organizations and promote their own paramilitary training program and leftist ideology globally.”

Not unlike the Russian mafia which has historically and predominantly acted as an instrument of the FSB across Europe and the US, we see similar duel use patterns with some of these neo-Nazi organizations also associated with Russian state security actors globally.

There is muchore, and could go on, but doubt you will track any of this as it is. 🇺🇸🎚


131 posted on 09/21/2022 8:48:37 AM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: patriotfury

Correction —

“The number of pre WWII dead in Ukraine proper, including from both Lenin and Stalin led revolutions (including the Russian “White Revolution”), ranges from near 30 million on the low end, to over 40 million on the high end”

Should read —

“The number of pre WWII dead in Ukraine and *Russia* proper, including from both Lenin and Stalin led revolutions (including the Russian “White Revolution”), ranges from near 35 million on the low end, to over 40 million on the high end”


132 posted on 09/21/2022 8:55:53 AM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: patriotfury; Steve Van Doorn

Correction —

“The number of pre WWII dead in Ukraine proper, including from both Lenin and Stalin led revolutions (including the Russian “White Revolution”), ranges from near 30 million on the low end, to over 40 million on the high end”

Should read —

“The number of pre WWII dead in Ukraine and *Russia* proper, including from both Lenin and Stalin led revolutions (including the Russian “White Revolution”), ranges from near 35 million on the low end, to over 40 million on the high end”


133 posted on 09/21/2022 8:57:12 AM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: patriotfury
Good over view but your post doesn't dig deep enough into the the roots of Communism/National socialism then or today. Both as you say very bad people did a lot of evil. I've been meaning to put this post together. Hope my first draft comes out ok.

You're right Communism and and the Sozi National socialists (NAZI is an imaginary term.) Both came from the young Hegelians. Which Marx employee wrote the book "the Jewish question" the bases of later to be the Sozi. Which they argued endlessly until Marx death and called their version of socialism useful idiots.

Fascist-syndicalism precursor of fascism. (Max Stirner beliefs. IE: workers'self-management) Fascists meaning bundle the workers owned corporations together.
Georges Sorel(1847-1922) whom was a self described Marxist and Syndicalist helped put Mussolini into power. Sorel came up with term Fascist-syndicalism which they later dropped the term syndicalism.

The so called Nazi groups today are mostly front groups put on by most FBI types around the world. Then there are the Azov and Ba'ath party that has taken a life of their own.
The Sozi never called themselves a derogatory term used by their enemies. They're complete idiots.

The Communism and Sozi last attempt to become one party was on Nov 28 1925 Chemnitz Gernmany when the Communist party of Germany and the Sozi party failed to become one party. When it was clear the Sozi's where dominating the communist some of the communist joined the the Sozi's and called themselves "beefsteaks" (brown on the inside red in the middle.) Many of the communist joined the Bolsheviks.

Part II: This for me is where it gets interesting and where the anti-Semites get wrong.

The Bolsheviks where made up of about 1/3 Khazars (Ashkenazi or Russian Jews) which was enough to highly influence the power base. All religions have major problems. Though Khazars where converted by these Babylonian traitors families in the 8th centuries. They're not Jewish at all they're a Babylonian religion that dates pre-Babylonia Talmud.
Orthodox Judaism lady explains this Doreen Dotan in this Video:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9tGlvYuCPb9b/

Babylonian religion to this day require human blood sacrifices. If you think that sounds bad look at what they did to the Russian people during the USSR days.

Stats on Abortion rate killing off the Russian population (250 million Russians killed.) This was a slave system to work their people to their literal demise.
Based on the destruction the family unit. It was a psywar on the Russian people. Similar to what i see as the covid injections.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/JKZEuEUqWmSZ/

Granted Putin is no saint and has ties to the communist of the USSR. He did end the psywar. I see him similar to the US General Smedley Butler that created banana republics around the world yet stopped the National socialists from taking over the US.
The psywar against the Russian people has ended abortion has dropped drastically. Which means the Babylonian religion has lost it's power in Russia.
abortion rate in Russia from 2000 to 2020
https://movingtorussia.substack.com/p/abortion-rate-decreasing-in-russia

Babylonian religion wasn't just the Khazars. They exist in the western states and that is where we are in trouble and the defining reason they want Russia back.

The Babylonian religion hides within Judaism though they're clearly not Jewish.
This lady explains
JEWISH WOMAN EXPLAINS HER FAMILY'S INVOLVEMENT WITH CHILD SACRIFICE ON THE OPRAH SHOW - FULL VERSION
https://www.bitchute.com/video/jOwdO2jUVjAd/

To be clear the western side of the Babylonian religion was what Jesus Christ came here for. To stop them. Remember Christ birth when they executed the first born male child and why Christ turned over the bench's selling animals to sacrifice? I can go into a lot more detail but that is a good overview.
138 posted on 09/21/2022 12:19:27 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: patriotfury
said, " doubt you will track any of this (NAZI groups) as it is"

Trust me I have in great depths. I wanted to know what makes them tick. I've debated them for years on line. The ones I know who they where Ba'ath, Golden Dawn, National Democratic Party of Germany and a few groups in the US I can't remember.

They're all idiots that sounded like leftists with strong nationalist views. Though the worst I remember was a Russian Nationalists that talked as a NAZI would. None of them I would want to talk to face to face but that Russian nationalist I felt like he would rip my head of with out thinking about it. (I don't know who he was with)

The over all theme to them with them is they are easily persuade with incomplete arguments. Extremely difficult to reason with.
Though two of them i did get through I think. I explained in my previous post how they all get the antisemitism wrong.

said, " Bolshevik’s Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR/CCCP) were at their core centralized humanistic socialist states"

yes in a vague sense and what they would call themselves humanist. They ALWAYS hide who they really are. They know they wouldn't be accepted as some of them are ritualistic cannibals.
141 posted on 09/21/2022 3:17:03 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: patriotfury

Hi, Patrotfury!

Since you know about these things - is this story correct https://twitter.com/PutinHasNoPenis/status/1552773707961188352


145 posted on 09/22/2022 12:59:05 AM PDT by Krosan
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