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WW3 fears as Putin prepares to go all in on Ukraine: Russia paves the way for conscription and scrambles to annex Ukrainian territories, warning the West 'all forces' will be used to defend them
Daily Mail ^ | 9/20/2022 | Chris Pleasance

Posted on 09/20/2022 9:45:32 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: BobL
You know that the situation in Odessa resulted from a fight between violent Russian agents and other groups. People like this Russian guy were at the scene of the riot. It was like a typical Antifa style riot in the US, but the Russian agents trapped some people in the building to die.

They do that kind of thing.

"Some pro-Russian activists carried guns and fired shots during the rioting"

The people who died were trapped by the armed pro-Russian activists and agents. Some of the corrupt, pro-Russian local police helped the pro-Russian Antifa style rioters who had ambushed the pro-government soccer fans.

341 posted on 09/20/2022 3:58:29 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: ought-six

I used to be confused at some of the weird arguments seen on FR. Once I realized that numerous prolific posters on FR are not fluent in American English or, especially, its cultural references, no further interest was fruitful.


342 posted on 09/20/2022 4:00:39 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: max americana

“stupid country not worth defending and we face a NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST.”

If Russia is okay with wiping out what it considers its own kind (Putin has said often that Russians and Ukrainians are “one people”), it would have no qualms about trying to wipe out people who are not.


343 posted on 09/20/2022 4:02:32 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Allegra
A few of my fellow brats had dads who were also raised as military brats and they’ll call themselves second generation military brats.

Have you even met a "fifth generation military brat"?

Did families live on bases in 1872 when Ulysses Grant was President?

I have never met anyone who discussed their family's military history that way.

344 posted on 09/20/2022 4:04:17 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: BobL

“Neocons are/were led by Linda, McCain, Neuland. You’re just a useful Republican, like 80% of the GOP Senators, the ones who hate Trump.”

Well, comrade, you sure have me pegged wrong. I did not and do not support any of those people, and am a strong Trump supporter, though I admit I voted for him in 2016 because of who he wasn’t. In 2020 I supported him enthusiastically because of what he did and who he is.

I said right here on FR, way back around the time of the McCain Palin ticket that the Republicans are no friends of the conservative. And I felt at the time like a lone voice in the wilderness. Oh, and for what it’s worth, I didn’t vote for Romney either.

And guess what? I do not support, I do not trust, and I do not like Putin, nor what he is doing. Nor do I now or have ever in the past trusted Russia or the former Soviet Union (Which was essentially just Russia running a bunch of other countries with an iron fist)

That doesn’t mean I support Soros, or Biden, or Zelensky (I know nothing about him and don’t care) but I DO have sympathies for the Ukrainian people who have been invaded, attacked, killed, imprisoned and tortured, all by Russians at the direction of your pal Putin.


345 posted on 09/20/2022 4:07:04 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder. )
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To: cranked

You must be very young not to know what the pejorative “dink” refers to.


346 posted on 09/20/2022 4:07:09 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: freeandfreezing

https://twitter.com/HunterCawood/status/1496891525363646470?s=07


347 posted on 09/20/2022 4:11:36 PM PDT by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: Petrosius

“There was no attempted genocide in Donbas.”

Yeah, that lie is routinely embraced by pro-Russia posters. They trot out that 14,000 in Eastern Ukraine people were slaughtered by Ukrainian forces. The truth, though, is much different. There may have been 14,000 deaths, but the majority were combat deaths involving armed belligerents, of both sides.


348 posted on 09/20/2022 4:12:16 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: marcusmaximus

Bravo!
I approve this message.


349 posted on 09/20/2022 4:15:12 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: freeandfreezing; cranked

How can he be a Russian?

He told me he was a US Air Force Pararescue jumper for 14 years!

Did he lie???


350 posted on 09/20/2022 4:15:24 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: dfwgator

“Putin is a lot of things, a Communist isn’t one of them.”

Putin is for Putin; his main allegiance is to Putin.


351 posted on 09/20/2022 4:18:48 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: dfwgator

Well, technically, neither was Stalin. He was a tyrant in every sense of the word, but only took what he wanted, and didn’t share.

He used the proletariat like cogs and spindles. Thrown away as they were used up.


352 posted on 09/20/2022 4:20:06 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: ought-six

https://twitter.com/HunterCawood/status/1496891525363646470?s=07


353 posted on 09/20/2022 4:21:07 PM PDT by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: PIF

But there is never a grain of truth in US propaganda for war, same as always.


354 posted on 09/20/2022 4:23:05 PM PDT by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: Alas Babylon!

This is true, as well. He had all the old Bolsheviks killed off. Some even suggest he was the one who poisoned Lenin, and caused the stroke that ultimately killed him.


355 posted on 09/20/2022 4:23:38 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Alas Babylon!; cranked

He is not Russian.


356 posted on 09/20/2022 4:23:51 PM PDT by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: BobL

totally agree
Trump held Putin in check
Trump held Xi in check
Trump held Kim in check

That is why deep state and/or the industrial military complex had to get rid of Trump. He was crimping their lifestyles.


357 posted on 09/20/2022 4:28:30 PM PDT by SisterK (the final variant is communism)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What’s the matter with you Kremlin propagandists people?

THEY started it??
Sorry but.. where are the western or Ukrainian troops in Russia? Where ? ohh.. you dont know....
The reason is that there are none!

On the other hand... there are 200000 (two hundred thousands) communist Russian troops invading and inside Ukraine right now! So WHO is the invader here? Who?

Would you applaud Mexico if they tried to take back Texas because Texas it was part of Mexico once? It seems like you are the weak link here... you seem unwilling to fight to protect your interests.


358 posted on 09/20/2022 4:30:45 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: Allegra
I was in the USAF 1970-1974. I don't ever recall dependents referring to themselves in generational terms. We just called them "pukes."
359 posted on 09/20/2022 4:31:55 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: freeandfreezing; BobL

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/03/18/bombing-mariupol-theater-ukrainian-azov-nato-intervention/


360 posted on 09/20/2022 4:35:37 PM PDT by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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