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Russia's Putin and Defense Minister Shoigu are expected to address the nation tonight,
disclose tv ^

Posted on 09/20/2022 7:30:29 AM PDT by janetjanet998

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To: lodi90

Putin is going to get the Czar Nicky treatment if this keeps up.


21 posted on 09/20/2022 8:05:08 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Always A Marine

There is nothing to “suspect” here. Russia has lost its war against the Ukrainian military and will return to its specialty of “fighting” women and children. Frankly, it’s all the Russian military is capable of. It’s designed from the ground up for this “mission.”


22 posted on 09/20/2022 8:06:30 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Destroyer Sailor

“Historically the goals of the Soviet Union mirrored that of Russia.”

Link please.


23 posted on 09/20/2022 8:07:05 AM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Latvia: 44 degrees)
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To: Destroyer Sailor

Yes, Stalin was Georgian, just as Hitler was Austrian.

But Stalin was a Russophile, and favored ethnic Russians, uprooting populations of more fertile lands who had lived there for centuries, in favor of ethnic Russians, also mandating that the Russian language be the main language taught throughout the entire Soviet Union.


24 posted on 09/20/2022 8:07:37 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: BobL

Yes, Stalin rejected Lenin and Trotsky’s Internationalism, in favor of the traditional Russian geopolitical aims, a buffer in central Europe.


25 posted on 09/20/2022 8:09:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: BobL

Russia started a war, assuming the rest of the west would let them do it.

They assumed wrong.

And blaming someone who is defending themselves is like blaming the victim of rape.

Russia starved a lot of Ukrainians. They are not very happy about Vlad trying to do so again.


26 posted on 09/20/2022 8:11:28 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: lodi90
There is nothing to “suspect” here. Russia has lost its war against the Ukrainian military and will return to its specialty of “fighting” women and children. Frankly, it’s all the Russian military is capable of. It’s designed from the ground up for this “mission.”

That's an interesting view. Time will reveal if it is accurate.

27 posted on 09/20/2022 8:13:43 AM PDT by Always A Marine ("When you strike at a king, you must kill him" - Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: PIF

Russia has more nukes than USA.


28 posted on 09/20/2022 8:14:10 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump & MAGA are the only road to kep USA viable.s)
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To: redgolum

“Russia starved a lot of Ukrainians.”

Link please.


29 posted on 09/20/2022 8:14:11 AM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Latvia: 44 degrees)
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To: PIF

Russia hasn’t declared full mobilization yet. I suspect she was trying to avoid that, as the costs to the economy and social fabric will be VERY high. Imagine the US doing so.

The question is what resources are left to fight with?

Remember the Hypersonic missiles that were supposed to wipe out Nato? Those are mostly gone. When you buy ammo from NK and drones from Iran, things are not going as well as hoped.


30 posted on 09/20/2022 8:14:17 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: redgolum

All because homo-erotic dancer Zelensky wanted to join NATO.


31 posted on 09/20/2022 8:15:23 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump & MAGA are the only road to kep USA viable.s)
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To: redgolum
Probably announcing support for the Referendums.......which start Friday.
32 posted on 09/20/2022 8:16:14 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: redgolum
Russia hasn’t declared full mobilization yet.

Germany declared war on Russia in 1914, because the Russians didn't stop their mobilization. Nicky and his cousin, The Kaiser, even wrote to each other trying to stop it, but to no avail.

33 posted on 09/20/2022 8:16:24 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Always A Marine

By declaring the contested territories Russian land, they can send conscripts.

That is happening.

I also suspect that by doing the above, they can then claim Russia has been invaded and use their alliances to pull other aligned nations in to the fight.

So Belarus, which has been quietly sitting by since the opening days, will be compelled to attack by their treaty.

A legal fiction, but such is diplomacy.


34 posted on 09/20/2022 8:17:11 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: BobL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

I fully expect denial and hand waving, but there is a reason they welcomed the Nazi’s at first.

Bit like welcoming a wolf pack in to drive away a bear.


35 posted on 09/20/2022 8:19:08 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: dfwgator
"Yes, Stalin rejected Lenin and Trotsky’s Internationalism, in favor of the traditional Russian geopolitical aims, a buffer in central Europe."

That sounds kinda national-socialisty...

36 posted on 09/20/2022 8:19:22 AM PDT by Flag_This
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To: janetjanet998

This is what is happening.

https://t.me/thedurancom/12478


37 posted on 09/20/2022 8:19:32 AM PDT by dforest
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To: BobL

“I don’t believe that Russia was a country in the 1930s..”

Really? Russia sure believed it.

“and the person running the Soviet Union wasn’t even a Russian.”

What’s your point?

L


38 posted on 09/20/2022 8:20:46 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: lodi90

Cut the nuke crap will ya? Nobody is using nukes.


39 posted on 09/20/2022 8:20:49 AM PDT by dforest
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To: redgolum

“I fully expect denial and hand waving”

Sorry, but that was a DIFFERENT country, vastly different.


40 posted on 09/20/2022 8:21:03 AM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Latvia: 44 degrees)
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