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How can you trust the rest of the story when much of their story has been withdrawn?

And the MSM has zero cred after Ghost of Kyiv and many stories like it debunked.

And... A steaming pile of thoroughly refuted links from you.

Secondly, I and others have said numerous times we support neither Zel or Putin but support the United States not getting into MIC wars of profit and adventure, don’t support the U.S. racking up another $30 trillion in debt, don’t support us getting in another quagmire like Iraq or in another proxy war like Syria, Yemen, etc. I have also challenged neocon doctrine from Bush, Cheney, McCain and challenged neoliberal doctrine from those like Obama, Biden, etc. Plus I have said numerous times I don’t care for Putin or Zel and have spoken against the machinations of Soros, Klaus, the WEF, etc.

But time and again I and others see some here speaking out against Putin and “Putinistas” but not against Biden’s war, Biden, neocon ideology, etc, etc, from them.

So the only conclusion we can come to is it seems there is sadly some love by some here for Obama, Biden, Soros, etc, and love for massive debt, sending Ukraine billions when we are broke as a nation, etc, going on here.

So you're actually going to deny that a mass grave was found at Izium, despite the overwhelming photographic and video evidence? We should just disbelieve our lying eyes? Is that it?

And BTW, it was Putin who invaded Ukraine, and not Biden, senile old fool that he is. Therefore, your straw man argument has no straw. And if you support Russia in Ukraine, then you are supporting evil, pure and simple.

Is THIS what you're about? Are you OK with THIS

There was a story that the Ghost fighter pilot of Kiev was killed in action and given a well attended funeral. Reports of his kills ranged from 8 - 9 to the teens or twenties.

Who knows? I heard similar stories while a journalist in Nam and Cambodia in the Fall, 1970. At least I was able to interview the people those stories were about is not only Hell, but confusion too.

“So the only conclusion we can come to is it seems there is sadly some love by some here for Obama, Biden, Soros, etc, and love for massive debt, sending Ukraine billions when we are broke as a nation, etc, going on here.”

Faulty conclusion, arrived at due to bias (as far as I know all your posts have been pro-Russia and anti-Ukraine).

There are many FReepers, like me, who are against a stronger and larger nation invading a smaller and weaker nation for dubious reasons. Ukraine posed no existential threat to Russia; none whatsoever. Whatever internal issues Ukraine was dealing with were up to Ukraine to deal with and remedy. It’s as simple as that. Those who cheer on Russia in its war against Ukraine — a war that Russia started — are just cheering on a bully who attacked a weaker neighbor. One has to wonder if those who cheer on Russia were or are bullies themselves, who preyed or prey on those weaker than themselves, but then wax indignant if their intended victim has the audacity to fight back.

Perhaps they fail to realize that there is a long history of animosity between Russians and Ukrainians, animosity that in certain circumstances arises to outright hatred.

This war could have ended at any time if Russia had just withdrawn from Ukraine entirely, and dropped all its demands. Russia doesn’t even have to surrender; it could save face by simply declaring it had made its point.