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Arlington Confederate Memorial Should Be Removed and USS Chancellorsville Renamed, Panel Says
Military.com ^ | Sept. 14, 2022 | Travis Tritten

Posted on 09/14/2022 4:52:18 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo

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To: kabar
In the same breath you should point out that all of the military units in the Union or the Confederacy fought for the individual State they were mustered from.   That is why the survivors pensions were granted by their individual State.
Before the war it was always the United States *are*, after the war it was the United States is... it made us an is.       -Shelby Foote

81 posted on 09/14/2022 9:51:42 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: higgmeister

Union soldiers were covered under the federal system while each former Confederate state had to create and fund its own pension system. And in a change from previous conflicts, it was not only white male veterans who were covered. African American veterans on the Union side were eligible for pensions from the very beginning. Women were also included both as widows and as veterans (primarily nurses) as time went on. Orphaned children were also eligible for assistance although the process was daunting. Each category had its own set of eligibility rules and benefit limits that changed dramatically over time and affected politics on both sides of the Mason-Dixon Line.

https://www.essentialcivilwarcurriculum.com/civil-war-pensions.html#:~:text=For%20Union%20soldiers%2C%20the%20pension,on%20duty%20were%20also%20eligible.


82 posted on 09/14/2022 10:01:58 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Taxman

The only good thing about those goddamn NORTHERN LIBRALS is the fact that their pussy attitudes and attack taxes chased most arms and ammunition manufacturers out of their states and into places like Tennessee, Arkansas, and Texas.

So now we have the manufacturing to really WHIP THEIR ASSES!


83 posted on 09/14/2022 10:21:52 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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Just as the overturned alcohol prohibition amendment was not erased from history, never erase any history that demonstrates mistakes and wrongfulness. Scars persist to remind and warn those in the future.


84 posted on 09/15/2022 4:19:03 AM PDT by USCG SimTech ( )
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To: Liaison

“Question 2. No as an answer causes of war are varied as the separation of political issues from direct action (Clausewitz) is too thin and murky to say what pushes groups or counties to order the first attack or uses an accident/incident to start a war. . .”

I understand this to mean that you do not believe the old saying that whoever fires “the very first shot” is necessarily responsible for the following war.

I agree. Otherwise we would have to adopt the ludicrous argument that the United States started the war with Japan by firing the first shot at Pearl Harbor. That won’t do.

To understand Lincoln’s War you must understand the reverence the South held for the basic principle in the Declaration of Independence: “That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them, shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”


85 posted on 09/15/2022 9:56:25 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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