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1 posted on 09/11/2022 8:29:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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https://sonar21.com/knowing-what-we-know-knowing-what-we-dont-know-and-knowing-the-difference/

he Ukrainians and NATO know that most of the ground war is being fought by Donbas militias, but do not want to inform the public of that because it undercuts their propaganda campaign to make this “invasion” all about Russia.

We also know that Russia is much better at deception than Ukraine and NATO. Ukraine did nothing to hide its intent to launch an attack in the Kherson region and also signaled it would attack around Kharkov. Russia? Helped the Donbas militias reinforce their forces around Kherson (and successfully beat back the Ukrainian attack causing massive Ukrainian losses). Russia also leaked information that it was sending huge armor and artillery reinforcements towards Kherson as that offensive got underway when, in reality, it organized a tactical withdrawal from the region and redeployed forces south to Donetsk.

There is one more salient fact–the Ukrainian offensive around Kharkov took place without any meaningful support from Ukrainian combat air or artillery. Why is that important? That means the Russian air force–both fixed wing and rotary wing–is unscathed and intact. Russian armor and artillery systems also were not destroyed. If they ain’t destroyed they can still fight and the Ukrainian troops do not have a large reserve of armor and artillery to protect them.

Ukraine and the western media blithely ignore this fact and are celebrating the limited Ukrainian advance as if it were the reincarnation of the Nazi blitzkrieg into France.

One final fact to take into account. Ukraine has incurred horrendous casualties over the last two and a half weeks of combat. Russia and the militias have far fewer losses. Russia has not tapped into its trained military reserve. Ukraine has no trained military reserve left. So, for all of you arm chair generals out there second guessing Russia’s command decisions, please explain how Ukraine comes out on top? I look forward to your answers.

2 posted on 09/11/2022 8:37:19 PM PDT by Kazan
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Hopefully they'll aim it at the gay "bath houses".

3 posted on 09/11/2022 8:38:03 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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Very dangerous. Putin can’t walk away he knows that.


4 posted on 09/11/2022 8:38:08 PM PDT by toddausauras (Stop ALL immigration NOW. )
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Putin doesn't seem like a gracious loser. If his health is also failing, I could see him utilizing some low yield tactical nukes. There is a power vacuum on the international stage called Biden. As physics has taught us, horror vacui or “nature abhors the void.”
5 posted on 09/11/2022 8:39:33 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis )
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*yawn* always the threat of the loser. And it’s an empty threat that will NEVER happen.


7 posted on 09/11/2022 8:46:00 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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Well, it is what it is at this point. Nukes are on the table and we need to have an answer, even if you don’t think Putin will use them... you need an answer else... the more likely he will use them. I think this is the sentence that sums up the current state of affairs when it comes to Putin’s nukes:

Deter him or kill him before he can use them.

Which ever route we take we better do it right the first time. Putin knows he is not fighting Ukraine, he is fighting in Ukraine...for now.


8 posted on 09/11/2022 8:46:02 PM PDT by WinstonSmith1984
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Well, an SS-27 or later wouldn’t be a tactical weapon.

Those are strategic weapons.

They should have used a different pic. 😜


10 posted on 09/11/2022 8:51:10 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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Commentators in the English speaking world have speculated and threatened on behalf of Russian their use of nuclear weapons since the war began. Russia wants Ukraine intact to exploit it like the imperialist power they pretend they are not. They are not going to turn Ukraine into a nuclear wasteland.

15 posted on 09/11/2022 9:24:48 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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"This business will get out of control.   It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it."
21 posted on 09/12/2022 12:27:04 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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It is for this reason that the White House and NATO should make clear upfront that this will not work. They should detail the pain Russia will suffer should withdrawal be a feint ahead of tactical nuclear use against Ukrainian forces and cities.

Stupid idiots. If President Putin uses Tactical Nukes he would have to have his finger on the Strategic Nukes button at the same moment.   Over and over again the policy on both sides has always been Launch on Warning.   Not wait for you to be destroyed before you attempt to destroy him back.

It's like a journalist asking the Police Chief, "couldn't you just wing him?"

22 posted on 09/12/2022 12:36:45 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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NO; it means their supply hubs for that part of Ukraine were captured. They had no choice. Plus that whole part of the Karkiv Oblast was lightly defended by mostly LNR forced conscripts, as most Russian regulars, AB and sfB were pulled to the Kherson region.


24 posted on 09/12/2022 3:47:34 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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So when was the last time the Russians even lit off a nuke? Considering the poor condition of most of their other military equipment, do they still even work?


25 posted on 09/12/2022 3:51:06 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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