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Ukraine Claims ‘Military Breakthrough’ Against Russia as U.S. Pledges More Aid
Breitbart ^ | 09/09/2022 | BREITBART LONDON

Posted on 09/09/2022 7:01:33 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: buwaya

The strange thing around here on FR is that it’s always “looking very good for the Ukrainians” and has been since the war/conflict/SMO started........


41 posted on 09/09/2022 7:59:41 AM PDT by cranked
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To: brownsfan

I met Bill Gates in 1989, as it happens. He impressed me as a great salesman. I was tempted to go all in on Microsoft, but no, I stuck with boring balanced investments. So it goes.


42 posted on 09/09/2022 8:00:38 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: cranked
I know who the real ‘garbage army’ is: The NATO trained Ukrainian one. “We lost five people for every one they did,” said Ihor, a 30-year-old platoon commander...

From the same article Despite the challenges, Ihor said he is eager to return to the front line as soon as he heals. “My people are there. How can I leave them?” he said.

However bloody the fight, the Ukrainian soldiers said they saw no alternative.

“If we don’t stop them, they’re going to just rape and murder our people like they did everywhere else,” said Oleksandr’s roommate in the hospital, a 49-year-old conscripted soldier who asked to be called by his nickname, “Pinochet.”

Pinochet said his knee was shattered by shrapnel from a mortar that was fired after a drone spotted him in the counteroffensive. He said that while Ukrainian casualties are significant, the side that wages an offensive always loses more soldiers.

“There’s nothing we can do about it,” Pinochet said. “And we can still win.”

43 posted on 09/09/2022 8:00:52 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: tlozo

As the Ukrainian cannon-fodder unfortunately continues to pile up.


44 posted on 09/09/2022 8:02:22 AM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

The difference over six months has been the nature of the “good”. At first its been just about the probability of national survival. The “good” has gradually changed. Now its about winning the war outright, without loss of territory.


45 posted on 09/09/2022 8:03:59 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: cranked

The strange thing on FR since Feb is its always “Ukraine is finished, cauldrons smauldrons, its over,etc etc...”


46 posted on 09/09/2022 8:04:26 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: FreshPrince

Indeed.


47 posted on 09/09/2022 8:07:25 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Phoenix8

Uh...that’s actually a Russian vehicle and a Russian soldier who came under Ukrainian fire while trying to cross a pontoon bridge across the Dnieper River. It’s not Ukrainian.


48 posted on 09/09/2022 8:07:37 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: buwaya

It appears the Russian bandits are going to retreat from Izyum and consolidate in occupied Luhansk. The bridge is gone so they’ll have to swim, though.


49 posted on 09/09/2022 8:08:16 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Renfrew

Gotta admit that it’s a pretty good plan!


50 posted on 09/09/2022 8:08:28 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: lodi90

Is there anything new out about a retreat from Izyum?
I havent seen it but this is a very fast moving situation.


51 posted on 09/09/2022 8:13:15 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Timber Rattler

The literal translation of the title from Indonesian to English is:

Ukrainian Troops Bombarded by Russian Air Strikes While Carrying Arms and Ammunition


52 posted on 09/09/2022 8:13:35 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: FreshPrince

Ukraine wins by not losing because sooner or later Russia will break. They’ve already broken in the early battles. Now Kharkiv and likely soon in Kherson. At that point the conscripts from occupied Ukraine will melt away in disgust and the Russian army will be exposed. Ukraine will continue applying pressure at places of its choosing and the entire Russian military expedition in Ukraine will collapse.


53 posted on 09/09/2022 8:14:30 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: bert

“Viewed differently and correctly, the American money is not expense but rather investment.”

That’s a good point. The F-35 costs $1.7 trillion. It exists only to counter Russia and China.

If $80 billion can remove one of those rivals from the table for the next few decades, that is money well spent.


54 posted on 09/09/2022 8:18:31 AM PDT by Renfrew
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Kherson was a failure

The new offensive further north we shall see

NATO advisors are running this and along with uke politicians calling shots

Uke commanders are not happy sacrificing pointless efforts with high casualty rates they can Ill afford


55 posted on 09/09/2022 8:20:01 AM PDT by wardaddy (If you are squishy about what’s going on you’re damn weak and on the wrong forums)
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To: buwaya

All the European problems you are going on about are of very long standing. This war has changed nothing for the worse.


I hope Europe has enough wood this winter. I am not sure what could be less worse than to have 30% of all your oil and gas turned off. Let’s see how this works out. Rationing has already started.


56 posted on 09/09/2022 8:23:55 AM PDT by poinq
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To: cranked

Yep. It’s all about dragging this out. $$$$

The ones I feel for are the innocent people whose lives have been destroyed as they are being used as pawns.


57 posted on 09/09/2022 8:28:58 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: Allegra

Agreed, Allegra.


58 posted on 09/09/2022 8:30:37 AM PDT by cranked
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The “break though” was completely contrived to provide cover for more tax dollars being sent to Ukraine and laundered back to those profiting from this war.


59 posted on 09/09/2022 8:31:00 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: wardaddy

Uke commanders are not happy sacrificing pointless efforts with high casualty rates they can Ill afford


Good point. The Ukrainians commanders must be terribly unhappy about liberating more areas of Ukraine in the last 3 days than Russian occupiers have managed to steal in the last 4 months.


60 posted on 09/09/2022 8:35:50 AM PDT by lodi90
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