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Meet the Chechen battalion joining Ukraine to fight Russia — and fellow Chechens
NPR ^ | September 5, 2022 | EMILY FENG and KATERYNA MALOFIEIEVA

Posted on 09/05/2022 3:12:03 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: 353FMG

Extremely common. Britain took and held half of whats now India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, plus Egypt, Sudan, Iraq, and etc and etc using Muslim troops, fighting other Muslims.

And for that matter so did France, for its part, in its empire.


61 posted on 09/05/2022 8:51:13 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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__”Or, uh, you might want to sort out your arguments here.”

You might want to note I said “defense has the advantage”.

It is not decisive, same as a coin toss in football, but I suspect you already knew that much.
And did not refute the posted Clausewitz quote.

“Having thus defined the true meaning of the defensive, having defined its boundaries, we return again to the assertion that the defensive is the stronger form of making war.”
Clausewitz


62 posted on 09/06/2022 8:24:51 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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But as I noted, it is extremely common for defenses to be overcome. Clausewitz noted a problem. Much of the art of war consists of finding solutions to this problem.

Maybe the Ukrainians have found solutions to their immediate problem, maybe not. But one cannot simply state that they will lose because they have to attack.


63 posted on 09/06/2022 9:36:40 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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But in those days there was not the great animosity between Christians and muzzies. There were no jihadist wars as there are now. There was no Taliban and ISIS. The Jewish state was not even created(which is the major cause of the friction between Christian and Muslim.


64 posted on 09/06/2022 11:36:53 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

Muslims vs Christians goes back way before the 1900s.


65 posted on 09/06/2022 11:42:33 AM PDT by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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To: 353FMG

It was different, certainly. Those were the latter days of the great European empires, which were mostly won, defended and policed by native troops. And, of course, when there were very few muslims living in the European home countries. And when the natives had little access to the European mass media technologies and etc.

But even so there were the same religious fanatics popping up on a regular basis calling the tribes to jihad, using the same arguments and rhetoric as we are so familiar with today. The British always had some “mad mullah” somewhere to deal with, from the Mahdi of Sudan to the Ikhwan of Arabia to the Mad Mullah of Swat. It was always something.


66 posted on 09/06/2022 12:04:58 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Timber Rattler

Buryats can whip these dumb Muslim thugs any day of the week.


67 posted on 09/12/2022 3:43:03 AM PDT by dennisw
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