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GPU ENGINES ARE SO STRATEGIC CHINA WILL HAVE TO USE ITS OWN
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Posted on 09/05/2022 4:53:50 AM PDT by FarCenter

China is the world’s second largest economy, it has the world’s largest population, and it is only a matter of time before has a world-class technology ecosystem spanning the smallest transistors to the largest hyperscale and HPC systems. It simply has enough money, and enough time, and enough smart people, to get there.

But that does not mean that the United States wants to make that transition for the Middle Kingdom an easy one. And so, every now and then, export controls and licenses are put into effect by the US Department of Commerce to restrict the sale of hardware, software, and other vital pieces of technology to China. And even before it was waging war against Ukraine, sales of technology to Russia were also restricted.

Nvidia and AMD were just served such notices restricting sales of their top-end GPU engines by the US government last week, and we are certain that Intel will come under the same restrictions for its future GPUs.

And that is only going to spur on Chinese tech companies to create their own CPUs, GPUs, and AI accelerators. Much as restrictions on the sale of the “Knights Landing” many-core CPUs to certain Chinese HPC centers hastened the development of the Matrix 2000 DSP-based math accelerator for the Tianhe-2A supercomputer, delivered in 2015 far faster than anyone expected, we think the restrictions on the sale of high-end GPU accelerators is going to raise the profile of Biren Technology’s BR100 GPU as well as potentially those of other chip designers we have written about, such a Jingjia with its JM9 series and Tianshu Zhixin with its “Big Island” GPU. ...

The lesson from this development of chips and restriction of sales is that you cannot stop progress when there is a will and a government with money.

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1 posted on 09/05/2022 4:53:50 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter
The lesson from this development of chips and restriction of sales is that you cannot stop progress when there is a will and a government with money.

And spies!

And black market tech prostitutes!

2 posted on 09/05/2022 5:04:14 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: FarCenter

The Chi-coms are actively stealing American technology. They’ll just reverse engineer our stuff.


3 posted on 09/05/2022 5:04:39 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777
Some of "our stuff" is designed in China. From the OA -

The license is not just for sales of products, but also development of products in either Russia or China, and interestingly, Nvidia said in its 8-K filing that the development of the new H100 and the support of existing A100 customers might be interrupted by the geographical provisions of the license requirement set by the Department of Commerce. On September 1, it filed an amendment to the 8-K filing saying that the US government authorized exports, re-exports, and in-country transfers to finish the development of the H100 GPUs, and allows Nvidia to export parts needed to fulfil the A100 needs of US customers through March 1 of next year. The Commerce Department is also allowing A100 and H100 order fulfillment and logistics at Nvidia’s facility in Hong Kong through September 1, 2023.

NVIDIA Shanghai does Research and Development.

4 posted on 09/05/2022 5:18:59 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: servantboy777

And idiot companies hire chicoms by the boatload.


5 posted on 09/05/2022 5:20:55 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: Sirius Lee

And the free traitors who conned us into funding their developments.


6 posted on 09/05/2022 5:21:21 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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To: servantboy777

Spent some time there in the 90s building power plants. Yep, they stole as much technology as they could, and screwed all the US vendors who thought that they were pioneering a new market. They are not particularly innovative, relying on group thinking more than anything else.


7 posted on 09/05/2022 5:23:33 AM PDT by FMBass (USN vet DE-1074 NNTaleb fan )
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To: FarCenter

Similar to Enron China will look amazing until it doesn’t. The thing that defeated Nazism and the Soviet Union was their inefficient economies. I think ten years from now our concern will be China collapsing and where its weapons will end up.


8 posted on 09/05/2022 5:47:54 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: FMBass

>>They are not particularly innovative, relying on group thinking more than anything else.<<

Very accurate statement. Americans are unique in that we are innovators. Thinking outside the box. Chicoms stay within the box.


9 posted on 09/05/2022 5:56:25 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: HYPOCRACY

>>And idiot companies hire chicoms by the boatload.<<

...and idiot Americans keep buying Chi-com made products thus driving demand for multinational corps to keep using near slave labor.

Americans could put the squeeze on China, particularly now during their insane lockdowns and economic sputter.

Check your labels. Purchase from anywhere but China.


10 posted on 09/05/2022 5:58:53 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

“Americans are unique in that we are innovators.”

I agree. It is a cultural thing. My standard example is: give a European, or any non American a computer, and he will read the directions before turning it on. Give an American a computer, and he will immediately turn it on and say to himself: “lets see what this baby can do” and start hitting buttons. That inquisitiveness, and rule breaking, is what leads to innovation.


11 posted on 09/05/2022 6:21:56 AM PDT by FMBass (USN vet DE-1074 NNTaleb fan )
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To: FarCenter

Bkmk


12 posted on 09/05/2022 6:55:30 AM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chanece favors the prepared mind.)
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To: Gen.Blather

>>>The thing that defeated Nazism and the Soviet Union was their inefficient economies.

While I agree with the statement about the Soviet Union, it is not so clear about Nazism.

Given the state of the German economy in ‘32, the German economy developed rapidly under Nazism and it continued to function pretty well during WW II considering their resource constraints and the damage caused by strategic bombing.

Note that in both WW I and WW II, the UK and US also changed to command and control economies.


13 posted on 09/05/2022 7:12:02 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

Instead of WTO in 2000, we simply should have established a trade regime where we treated China exactly as they treated us.

Clinton’s negotiation of China’s WTO entry was the worst, most lop-sided, corrupt, short-term political deal he ever did - and he did a lot.


14 posted on 09/05/2022 7:19:40 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: FarCenter

I doubt they would have developed the missile technology with out the bent one’s help.


15 posted on 09/05/2022 7:34:37 AM PDT by Track9 (You are far too inquisitive not to be seduced…)
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To: FarCenter

There is a good book titled “The Vampire Economy” describing why the Nazis failed economically. While the command economy in the west was basically managed entrepreneurial in Germany the state ran everything all while eliminating imports before the war to achieve autarchy.


16 posted on 09/05/2022 7:35:07 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: FarCenter

There is a good book titled “The Vampire Economy” describing why the Nazis failed economically. While the command economy in the west was basically managed entrepreneurial in Germany the state ran everything all while eliminating imports before the war to achieve autarchy.


17 posted on 09/05/2022 7:35:11 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: FMBass

Great analogy with regards to American Enginuity. Thanx for that.


18 posted on 09/05/2022 1:32:48 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: FarCenter
If I could buy a computer with ZERO chips from China in it, I'd be willing to pay a considerable premium for it.
19 posted on 09/05/2022 3:26:45 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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