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A girl wanted to keep the goat she raised for a county fair. They chose to kill it
The Guardian ^ | September 2, 2022 | Dani Anguiano

Posted on 09/03/2022 11:40:35 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie

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To: Lion Den Dan

I really enjoy lamb and venison but have not enjoyed any of the goat meat that I’ve had.


61 posted on 09/03/2022 12:25:59 PM PDT by Kinzua (What have we allowed to happen?)
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To: gloriabeth

At least in the Midwest, ‘meat goats’ are a specific category. Usually some grocery chain pays many multiples of market price to finance scholarships or charity. Hard to believe some corporation would want the bad publicity of forcing someone to give up a pet. What corporation is doing this?


62 posted on 09/03/2022 12:26:02 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The meat had already been sold basically. Parents just wanted to break the contract. By removing the animal it was theft.


63 posted on 09/03/2022 12:26:55 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

they dint pay for the goat because???


64 posted on 09/03/2022 12:26:58 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: caww

You are probably correct.

Even though goats are tasty, prize buck or billy can be worth much more than a good meal.

5.56mm


65 posted on 09/03/2022 12:29:30 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go.)
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To: TexasGator

So, purchased doesn’t mean ownership.
It means lent out from 4H?


66 posted on 09/03/2022 12:30:03 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: caww

Exactly. Breach of Goat Contract is a serious crime.

The parents could have bought a substitute baby goat to deliver and let their girl keep her. But that would have required common sense and compassion by the fair association officials. You just have have nine year old girls running around breaking goat sale contracts. That would put our democracy at serious risk.


67 posted on 09/03/2022 12:30:41 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“May your neighbors respect you, trouble neglect you, angels protect you and heaven accept you”)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

When a kid signs up to show an animal as part of a 4-H market animal program, the goal of the project is to sell the animal for slaughter. The parents should never have signed up this child to sell an animal for slaughter if she was not prepared to do so. There are plenty of options to show animals at the fair as breeding stock.

Several other children would have been competing with this kid for the opportunity to sell their animal at the auction as well. Animals don’t sell for 11$/lb. unless they placed well above average or top of the class, either reserve or grand champion animal. My guess would be the market animal program admin was not happy about the optics of a kid backing out of what is considered an honor because the kid thought the animal was a pet.

The article has obvious bias and the journalist is clearly writing from a sob story angle. Ask any local 4-Her from this area and I’m sure they’d tell you the full story.


68 posted on 09/03/2022 12:32:00 PM PDT by ThornJ56
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To: gloriabeth

None of you obviously were ever in 4H or FFA yes the girl owned the goat,but once she enters the competition at the fair she agrees to the sale and slaughter of the goat.No differance if it was a chicken,rabbit,or cow.Regardless of who buys the animal,even if she buys it herself at the final sale,the animal is in fact slaughtered.Those are the rules of the competition.The animals are usually sold for hundreds and thousands of dollars.At Ohio State fair the record price for a stear was 225,000 dollars.Stop blaming the GOP candidate for the animals death,all he did was give a little girl a sizable amount of money.Fair Rules determin the animal must be killed.


69 posted on 09/03/2022 12:32:21 PM PDT by Craftmore
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To: caww

“Parents could have bid on the goat like anyone else if they wanted it.”

Yes. Or offered to buy it from the winner.

Another article said the winner gave up his rights to the goat.

How much did he bid and why not just give it to the girl.


70 posted on 09/03/2022 12:33:07 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: delchiante

“So, purchased doesn’t mean ownership.”

You were already corrected after your first post.


71 posted on 09/03/2022 12:37:08 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: delchiante

When I was a youngster, 4H was the organization young folks would join to learn about all things farming and ranching. Every year there was a fair. Foks in the organization could buy and raise young livestock, raise it, compete for a prize, and sell it at an auction and receive the proceeds.

It seemed a good way to teach kids about being adults by involving them in the agricultural business. Kids learned together. raised crops and livestock together... It wasn’t for me but it always sounded fun. And not just something for farm kids. Anyone with a sincere interest.

But I always that that everyone understood that you were raising something (crops, livestock) to sell to someone else. Buyers got the fruit of the labor. Sellers reaped the dividends of their effort. And that they weren’t raising pets, but livestock. And there were adults involved volunteering(?) their time and energy in teaching the next generation of youngsters a little something about agriculture and how to make your way in it.

...But not every kid understands it at once, I get that. So I would think there would be rules for opting out if someone didn’t want to give up their project—especially an animal they bonded with.

So I do think there is more going on in this story than meanies wanting to take some poor girl’s pet goat and killing it. It all sounds like a situation that would have been settled amicably in the 80’s was handled poorly in 2022.


72 posted on 09/03/2022 12:37:33 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: caww

I’m sure it’s some bureaucratic rule from the CA dept of agriculture. In Idaho, you can’t just buy a potato from a local store and plant it. You have to buy a cutting from an approved store, even thought the store potato is obviously ok to sell. If I did and someone found out about it, I’m sure the state response would be similar.


73 posted on 09/03/2022 12:37:53 PM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: TexasGator

Not to a CA fair, I won’t.


74 posted on 09/03/2022 12:38:20 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Im guessing the goat had some evidence against Hillary and all taliban members.


75 posted on 09/03/2022 12:40:58 PM PDT by GunHoardingCapitalist (The cake is a lie!)
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To: Bobalu

Good ending to a sad story.


76 posted on 09/03/2022 12:41:12 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Goat is better, not so much fat.


77 posted on 09/03/2022 12:42:35 PM PDT by Jolla
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To: BradyLS; TexasGator

Thank you, BradyLS, for that clear explanation.


78 posted on 09/03/2022 12:45:35 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: BradyLS

If she didnt want the goat to be slaughtered the answer was to not enter it into the Fair competition.Once she entered it into the competition she agreed to the rule that it would be slaughtered.Have none of you ever lived on a farm or been members of 4H or FFA?


79 posted on 09/03/2022 12:46:09 PM PDT by Craftmore
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To: BradyLS

“Goat meat can be preapred to be very tasty!”

I’m sure you would enjoy scarfing this little girl’s pet.


80 posted on 09/03/2022 12:52:21 PM PDT by Pirate Ragnar (Hope coming from Florida)
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