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To: woodpusher; Kazan

LOL. The west is allowing Russia to keep stolen land so Putin can “save face” as Macron said. You guys need to understand Russia can not win this war. Only Brandon’s weakness and the Soros EU’s financial support keeps Russia from having lost it already.

Fantasize about Putin’s warriors storming Odesa and Kyiv if you wish but understand Ukraine has friends that will never allow that to happen. How does the battlefield look today with the current 1-2 USAF aid flights a day? How do you think it will look with 20? Or 50? Corrupt and incompetent Russia has no hope of winning this arms race. As it was in the Cold War, btw.

Be careful what you wish for. You might get it.


91 posted on 09/01/2022 1:51:21 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90
. You guys need to understand Russia can not win this war.

Have you looked at map? That light red on it (the land Russia has liberated) just keeps growing and growing. That is the only measure of who is winning.

92 posted on 09/01/2022 2:58:11 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: lodi90
Fantasize about Putin’s warriors storming Odesa and Kyiv

I doubt Putin has any desire to take Kiev given that it is comprised of mostly ethnic Russians. The Russians absolutely take Odessa and Kharkiv unless Ukraine unconditionally surrenders.

But, you think Russia liberating all of Donbass, taking Kherson and everything east of the Dnieper river would be defined as a loss for Russia if it didn't take Odessa? This is how you move the goalposts to try to spin a massive loss into a win. It's laughable.

Crimea, Donbass and Kherson will never be part of Ukraine again.

93 posted on 09/01/2022 3:06:30 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: lodi90
LOL. The west is allowing Russia to keep stolen land so Putin can “save face” as Macron said.

And the West is allowing Israel to keep stolen land to preserve the legacy of Levi Eshkol. Of course.

Fantasize about Putin’s warriors storming Odesa ....

At my #76, I said not a word about "storming Odesa." What I actually said was,

The Russian front line is attacking Nicolaev. If/when Nicolaev falls, they can procced to Transnistria, and Odesa will be cut off. In the Zaporizhzhia oblast, the largest nuclear power plant in Europe is now behind Russian lines.

Your pretend response to your own fantasy is unbecoming.

It is a fact that Russia has been shelling Nicolaev. The obvious next step if/when they capture Nicolaev, is to proceed to the border of Transnistria. What I said was that Odesa would be cut off. There would be no need to storm Odesa.

How does the battlefield look today with the current 1-2 USAF aid flights a day?

Today, as on the first day of the war, Ukraine against Russia is a mismatch and hopeless. What do you think they are flying in that can sustain a 1,500 mile front? You are being ridiculous. The largest capacity aircraft the USAF has is the C5M at about 130T. Maxed out it would carry 173 lbs for each mile of front.

When they get to 8 to 10 flights a day, they will get back to claimed levels in April. I will be the game changer.

https://www.airforcemag.com/pentagon-8-to-10-flights-day-full-of-aid-for-ukraine-pouring-into-europe/

Pentagon: ‘Roughly 8 to 10 Flights a Day’ Full of Aid for Ukraine Pouring into Europe

April 12, 2022 | By Greg Hadley and John A. Tirpak

Roughly eight to 10 flights full of supplies and equipment for Ukraine are landing in Eastern Europe every day, Pentagon press secretary John F. Kirby told reporters on April 12, as the U.S. and other nations race to get their aid packages into the hands of Ukrainians combatting Russia’s invasion.


94 posted on 09/01/2022 3:18:17 PM PDT by woodpusher
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