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To: Gunslingr3; Kazan; Cathi; delta7; NorseViking; JonPreston

You have no idea what they are doing. There are also pontoon bridges, and the potholes in the roadways on the Antonovsky bridge and other bridges are easy to repair. Cost/benefit...millions of dollars of missiles to make potholes vs. a handful of Uzbeks and a cement mixer. You are either a Biden administration troll or a dumbass. As for the vaunted “Kherson counteroffensive”, can you describe in detail what the results have been? All you have are stories from the same sources that gave you the “Ghost of Kiev”, “Snake Island”, “Miss Ukraine”, “Mass Rape”, and “Bucha” hoaxes.


47 posted on 08/30/2022 7:28:11 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: achilles2000
You have no idea what they are doing

I do know what they’re doing. They’re using a ferry instead of a bridge. You don’t do that when the bridge is ‘fine’ because it is horrendously inefficient.

I asked you a question but you dodged it. Let’s put an answer on the record from you so we can review it in the future:

To wit:

When the Russians retreat from the north bank and abandon Kherson, will you spin it as a Russian feint, a goodwill gesture, or will you recognize it as a Russian defeat?

Which will it be?

48 posted on 08/30/2022 9:18:03 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: achilles2000

https://t.me/s/rezident_ua/13839

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#Layout #Rumors

We talked to our sources among the military, who clearly told us that the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which was organized by the Office of the President, is mostly window dressing, which will not result in anything serious, except for high-profile PR actions, hype statements about the capture and liberation of a couple of villages without specifying the names, raids of bot farms with the dispersal of slogans with an attempt to create an illusion in order to cheer up the rear, and not the soldiers on the front line, who know the whole kitchen from the inside and are still silent, since it’s not time yet to disperse the “bad cases”. Perhaps the goal is to provoke the rear again to chip in for the army or to demand more money and weapons from the West, passing off wishful thinking. After all, the Western press immediately began to disperse that the Armed Forces of Ukraine were already right at Kherson and almost at the borders with Crimea, and the Russians were fleeing en masse. But the strategy pursued by Bankovaya does not solve the problem at the root, but only delays it, thereby exacerbating the situation.

The way out of this situation is to stop engaging in populism, stop pursuing situational political goals, as was the case with the loss of Severodonetsk-Lysichansk and the village of Peski.

If we realize the level of loss, then one fortified area in the village of Peski is more expensive and strategically more important than hundreds of villages that the Armed Forces of Ukraine cannot take.

You have to be clear about yourself. The Armed Forces of Ukraine cannot afford to go on the offensive, lose hundreds of dead soldiers in a matter of hours and lose their already scarce armor. The trump card of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is the defense of lines and pulling the enemy. The rest is suicide and miscalculation.

When the military is led by politicians, nothing good comes of it.

Resident
Colleagues, our source immediately said yesterday that you were probing the front, but there was no full-scale counteroffensive yet. The illusion of an attack is needed to change the negative trend in the West that has been taking shape over the past two months and has become more and more visible in the international media.
The dumps of the OP dispersed the victory all day, and then they wrote that silence was needed at the front and the counteroffensive had already begun! All this hype is necessary in order to create in the West the illusion of a change in the situation at the front, that the conflict is not frozen, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine can retake territories. Only on Bankovaya again they did not take into account several factors: firstly, there will not be many such probings of the front, due to heavy losses, and secondly, everyone will soon understand that the counteroffensive is not real.
Well they got that right. It appears Ukraine had a bad day. The Russian Ministry of Defense just updated their report of yesterday’s counter offensive.

https://t.me/s/mod_russia

As a result of the defeat of the offensive of the Ukrainian troops carried out on the personal orders of Zelensky in the Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog and other directions, the enemy suffered large-scale losses.

📊The effective actions of the Russian group of troops destroyed 48 tanks, 46 infantry fighting vehicles, 37 other armored fighting vehicles, 8 pickup trucks with heavy machine guns and more than 1,200 Ukrainian servicemen in a day.

◽️When repulsing the enemy offensive, Russian troops defeated units of the 128th Separate Mountain Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine transferred to participate in the operation from western Ukraine. Five servicemen of this brigade laid down their arms and surrendered.


49 posted on 08/30/2022 9:36:57 AM PDT by Cathi
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