Posted on 08/29/2022 7:22:11 AM PDT by MNDude
Blood of Tyrants wrote: “Only the tens of thousands of deaths and injuries and permanent disabilities AFTER people got the clot shot.”
COVID has killed over 1 million in the USA.
The vaccines have prevented another million deaths.
There is no way of knowing how many were “saved” by the vaccine. But there is a way of knowing how many died of covid after they were vaxxed with the worthless vax.
BTW, the death rate of unvaccinated is about 0.3%. It drops to about 0.002% for children and the rate of serious complications from the vax is many times higher.
Blood of Tyrants wrote: “There is no way of knowing how many were “saved” by the vaccine. But there is a way of knowing how many died of covid after they were vaxxed with the worthless vax.”
Fact Check-COVID-19 vaccines do not kill more people than they save; FDA experts did not make this false claim
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-usa-idUSL1N2QP18K
“COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective and severe reactions after vaccination are rare.”
“CDC recommends COVID-19 vaccines for everyone ages 6 months and older, and boosters for everyone 5 years and older, if eligible.”
“Millions of people in the United States have received COVID-19 vaccines under the most intense safety monitoring program in U.S. history.”
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
IOW, the covid vaccines have more reports of adverse reactions because the covid vaccines have been subject to the most intense monitoring in history.
BTW, you mentioned several adverse reactions. The CDC link reports:
“Anaphylaxis after COVID-19 vaccination is rare and has occurred at a rate of approximately 5 cases per one million vaccine doses administered. Anaphylaxis, a severe type of allergic reaction, can occur after any kind of vaccination. If it happens, healthcare providers can effectively and immediately treat the reaction.”
“Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) after J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccination is rare and has occurred in approximately 4 cases per one million doses administered.”
“Myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. Myocarditis is inflammation of the heart muscle, and pericarditis is inflammation of the outer lining of the heart. Most patients with myocarditis or pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination responded well to medicine and rest and felt better quickly. Most cases have been reported after receiving Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna (mRNA COVID-19 vaccines), particularly in male adolescents and young adults.”
“Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. More than 608 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through August 24, 2022. During this time, VAERS received 16,144 preliminary reports of death (.0027%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA clinicians review reports of death to VAERS including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records.”
“:FDA experts did not make this false claim”
Safe and effective. Effective? I guess so if you don’t count the millions who got covid after being “fully immunized”. How many people got polio after being fully vaccinated? Or smallpox? Or diphtheria? Or pertussis?
lood of Tyrants wrote: “Safe and effective. Effective? I guess so if you don’t count the millions who got covid after being “fully immunized”. How many people got polio after being fully vaccinated? Or smallpox? Or diphtheria? Or pertussis?”
Effective, yes, the vaccines have saved millions of lives. BTW, you do realize that the survival rate for polio and for covid were essentially the same?
Money & power.
From the CDC website: Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against paralytic polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.
From World Atlas: The reported cases in 2013 and 2014 were 416 and 359 respectively followed by 74 in 2015 and 37 in 2016.
Looks a heck of a lot more effective than the covid vax. In fact the covid vaccine looks to be one of the least effective vaccines in the world. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/articlepdf/209448/joc70121_2155_2163.pdf
However, if polio didn’t kill you, you very well may have had to spend months in an iron lung and be disabled for the rest of your life.
https://www.aier.org/article/no-lockdowns-the-terrifying-polio-pandemic-of-1949-52/
In the 1952 season, of the 57,628 cases reported, 3,145 died and a shocking 21,269 experienced paralysis.
If you got polio, there was a 5.4% chance would die and a 37% chance be partially or completely paralyzed for the rest of your life.
Blood of Tyrants wrote: “From the CDC website: Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against paralytic polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.”
Requires multiple injections just like many other diseases including COVID.
Blood of Tyrant wrote: “From World Atlas: The reported cases in 2013 and 2014 were 416 and 359 respectively followed by 74 in 2015 and 37 in 2016.”
Because of a world wide vaccination program. Polio is resurgent in those areas with extensive anti-vaccination campaigns.
Blood of Tyrants wrote: Looks a heck of a lot more effective than the covid vax. In fact the covid vaccine looks to be one of the least effective vaccines in the world.”
Really? Because of polio vaccines, 20 million people can walk today. (That would be 1 million deaths - see below)
Because of covid vaccines, the Lancet estimates that over 14.4 million deaths were prevented.
14.4 million deaths prevented by covid vaccines is a far bigger impact than the 1 million prevented by the polio vaccines, yet you claim the polio vaccines were much more effective?
“One in 200 infections leads to irreversible paralysis. Among those paralysed, 5–10% die when their breathing muscles become immobilized.”
https://www.who.int/en/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/poliomyelitis
Do the math. One in 200 paralysis. Five in one hundred with paralysis die. Survival rate is essentially the same as COVID. BTW, approximately 70% infected were asymptomatic.
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