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Commentary: Why Johnny can’t read — 100 years of teaching without phonics
Alpha News ^ | August 27, 2022 | Greg Pulles

Posted on 08/27/2022 12:09:27 PM PDT by jdege

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To: wardaddy
"I used phonics in the early 60s"

I grew up on / in the town of Brentwood, Suffolk County, Long Island, New York during the 1960's. I was never taught a thing about "phonics!" If I remember correctly, I may have been 40 year's old, before I first heard the word phonics, via my kids homework, (Washington State) via my late wife who also came from Long Island. I remember asking, do you brush your teeth or comb your hair with a phonic[s.] Talk about being out of touch, guilty as charged.

We were taught "Whole-Word-Sight-Reading." grade school to High School. It sucked, big time. Not until my mid-to late 30's did I improve my reading skill's (self-taught) reading two to three different newspaper's, thinking I was reading the truth. Didn't take long to realize, Houston we've got a problem, those communist loving snooze-papers were peddling a lot of Bull-Droppings.

61 posted on 08/27/2022 5:29:05 PM PDT by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's lie, only while testifying, as taught in their respected Police Academy(s). )
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To: FrdmLvr

Alpha-phonics has a website


62 posted on 08/27/2022 5:37:38 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Adder

That’s because most Boomers had to walk 6 miles to school uphill in the Snowz.


63 posted on 08/27/2022 5:44:46 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: Mogger

>>An older dictionary allows you to comprehend it.

I have an unabridged dictionary from c. 1980. Someone will have to deal with it after I die, I’m keeping it until then.


64 posted on 08/27/2022 6:06:31 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Valpal1
What people assume is “whole word” reading is actually automaticity similar to muscle memory. The well taught and practiced brain will organize itself so that the very familiar words are recognized so rapidly that it appears they are read whole.

Thank you for clarifying that. Skilled readers most certainly do not use the "whole word" system.

65 posted on 08/27/2022 6:18:55 PM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas)
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To: jdege

I was taught to “sound it out” and was reading novels at 5. I kid you not.

Sat on my dad’s knee and he read the newspapers to me, especially the funnies.


66 posted on 08/27/2022 6:28:12 PM PDT by Veto! (FJBsucksrocks)
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To: FreedomPoster
I have an unabridged dictionary from c. 1980. Someone will have to deal with it after I die, I’m keeping it until then.

The most modern dictionary I've found with real phonics is the 1934 Websters Collegiate Dictionary.

67 posted on 08/27/2022 6:43:37 PM PDT by Mogger
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To: Adder

People who were taught actual phonics know that ‘ph’ is a phonogram for the phoneme ‘fff’ and if you were particularly well taught you would also know that most words using that spelling entered English from the study of classical Greek writers by the educated elites since at least the Roman era.


68 posted on 08/27/2022 7:06:37 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: jdege
I learned to read well before attending kindergarten (THAT was boring!) with the Cat in the Hat books. I read, read, read. My parents bought me books I requested, I had a frequent flyer pass at the Bookmobile and library, I'd read cereal boxes at the table.

When I hear about the poor reading (and math and anything else scores) of black children, I have to wonder how many of them have parent(s) who read to them? How many of them have books in the house? I know for a fact that many of them don't even have a public library card---I had to tell them where their nearest public library was and how to get a card in the science classes I taught. They also didn't seem very interested in reading. They'd rather see the video. They don't realize how very limiting poor reading and writing skills are in our modern world.

69 posted on 08/27/2022 7:50:53 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Adder

No, you are incorrect. In Phonics the way to read it is Ph...F sound. The only sound I can recall that the combo ph can make


70 posted on 08/27/2022 9:20:04 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (Seriously, what ever happened to Campaign finance limits?)
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To: MotorCityBuck

I definitely walk 2 miles to school, even when it snowed. The schools didn’t shut down, they didn’t send buses in the snow either. They simply delayed school one hour. I could have ridden a bus, but it would entail walking out of my way to the bus stop, by the time I got there, I would be about 1.5 miles from school. Factor in the longer time of travel on the bus, I would beat the bus. When it snowed, I always beat the bus and got to sit in the class room and read MY BOOK I always had with me.


71 posted on 08/27/2022 9:24:54 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (Seriously, what ever happened to Campaign finance limits?)
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To: Valpal1

I DO know that.

And I was not taught phonics to know that.


72 posted on 08/28/2022 3:57:03 AM PDT by Adder (ALL Democrats are the enemy. NO QUARTER!!)
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To: jdege

73 posted on 08/28/2022 6:48:28 AM PDT by Pollard (Worm Free PureBlood)
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To: jdege
I wonder if the dumbass teaching methods the great and all knowing Departments of Education at our universities are purposefully being applied? They are applying the same dumbass teaching methods to math. It would be a great plan.
74 posted on 08/28/2022 6:55:09 AM PDT by Chgogal (Uncle Brandon wants your money.)
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To: jdege

Plenty of kids learn to read without phonics.


75 posted on 08/28/2022 7:08:16 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: jdege

Problem really is that the teachers are stupid and there only to keep kids as indoctrinated and stupid as they are.


76 posted on 08/28/2022 7:18:51 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Adder

That is unsurprising. The human brain excels at recognizing and remembering patterns.

The whole point of specific phonics instruction is to save children the trouble of reinventing the wheel, so they can read to learn instead of spending years learning to read.


77 posted on 08/28/2022 8:28:35 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: jdege

Litersee be rayciss....


78 posted on 08/28/2022 10:17:16 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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