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Darya Dugina was killed by partisans of the Russian National Republican Army
UKRAINSKA PRAVDA ^ | 21 August 2022

Posted on 08/23/2022 4:44:31 AM PDT by Cronos

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To: House Atreides
You do realize that this is a fictional organization made up to distract from whom the real killers are and what Ukrainian organizations they worked for.

Lets explore your hypothesis. There are anti-government activists in Russia, like the people who have set some recruiting offices on fire and the people arrested for opposing the war in Ukraine.

There have also been some instances of fires at facilities that support the war effort, train derailments, etc. And most recently the bombing which killed the daughter of a fairly well known member of the Russian elite.

One possibility is that those events were attacks from internal Russian dissidents or crime syndicates, or even by the FSB or other state related entities pro or anti-Putin.

Another possibility is that the Ukrainian clandestine services are extremely good, and have thoroughly infiltrated Russia to the extent that they can car bomb the daughter of a member of the Russian elite whenever they want to. According to the Russians the assassin lived in the same apartment building as the victim and even though supposedly the woman was an AZOV member the Russian security services let her in the country and had no idea what she was up to. If that is true there are hundreds like her already in Russia.

If there really are no Russians starting fires, derailing trains, and now killing the family members of elite Russians, then real fear should be spreading among the Russian elites. They would have to realize that the Ukrainian clandestine services can kill them, or their family members any time they go out shopping, or to a festival, or are at their desk in the research center.

It is probably in the best interests of the Russian government to simultaneously publicly blame the Ukrainians but internally blame nebulous and presumably weak Russian groups.

21 posted on 08/23/2022 5:51:37 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Cronos

No way to sift through all the propaganda to know who really did this, although it doesn’t seem to make much sense for Ukraine to have done it.


22 posted on 08/23/2022 6:00:04 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: House Atreides; All

If you go out and read their manifesto (it does exist on paper)...it reads like something that some CIA-contractor PhD-intellectual type would write.

I would offer the observation that some element of the CIA (maybe planned under CIA guidance, maybe on their own individual staging) created this group and is faking the existence. The manifesto reads like a combination of nationalism and socialism, and of course...that leads to one odd conclusion.

It’s not just the Russians and Ukrainians at war....elements of Europe, the CIA, the Chinese, and others...are playing around the corners of this situation.


23 posted on 08/23/2022 6:05:12 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Cronos

NRA is a fiction of imagination which didn’t exist until two days ago.


24 posted on 08/23/2022 6:09:23 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: freeandfreezing
It is probably in the best interests of the Russian government to simultaneously publicly blame the Ukrainians but internally blame nebulous and presumably weak Russian groups.

sure.

Just like the great philosopher, Leon the Professional, there are rules... "no children, no women and no civilians"....

I think that just maybe the "elites" on BOTH SIDES, might be worried now..... since there are "no rules" and "plausible deniability".

Ukraine is now going to be blamed and it looks like "Estonia" will be "on the list"...... all that needs to happen is for the "assassin" to be captured and "made to confess".....

This is going to be interesting.

25 posted on 08/23/2022 6:19:49 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitantes)
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To: Cronos

Ilya Ponomarev is NOT new to the equation: He has been around advocating for violently taking out the current Russian leadership for some time. For all I know, this “NRA” exists only in his mind, but, I believe Ponomarev has a real axe to grind and, given means, would carry out his objectives and / or help others to do so. Namely, as he once matter-of-factly put it, to “kill the bastards”.

BTW, here’s the vid from the TV broadcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ydgjekMr1c


26 posted on 08/23/2022 6:23:49 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Travis McGee

Pravda nyet izvestia; Izvestia nyet pravda.


27 posted on 08/23/2022 6:29:07 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Cronos

I don’t trust anything from media over there. Both sides are using mass propaganda. (i.e., recall the “Ghost of Kiev?” The 19,000 Russian dead after just two months?)


28 posted on 08/23/2022 6:31:59 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: Paul R.

Yes, he and his Ukrainian compadres were the ones who SUDDENLY FARTED this NRA into “existence” along with the “manifesto” in this propaganda video. It’s just another squirrel for them to use to distract from the real villains.


29 posted on 08/23/2022 6:50:52 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX!)
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To: House Atreides

Not fictional.

Fictional are Putin’s excuses for the invasion of Ukraine. No biowarfare centres were found outside of Russian propaganda


30 posted on 08/23/2022 6:53:17 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Travis McGee

You can read the same on multiple other sites

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.newsweek.com/what-russias-anti-putin-national-republican-army-darya-dugina-1735541&ved=2ahUKEwiV9tSx8Nz5AhVLgosKHZrOClcQFnoECDAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw25boORQNOu70QB3epuyunT

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.dw.com/en/did-russian-resistance-kill-daughter-of-alexander-dugin/a-62885119&ved=2ahUKEwiV9tSx8Nz5AhVLgosKHZrOClcQFnoECEUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3cn4Ykj65u5W1alLsaEVOM

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://cybershafarat.com/2022/08/22/russian-national-republican-army-manifesto/&ved=2ahUKEwiJv_65jt35AhWGl4sKHe8eANU4ChAWegQICxAB&usg=AOvVaw36WORm5EAkO1j6Ae3ZSDmW


31 posted on 08/23/2022 6:54:52 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: BobL

Trump would have kicked Putin’s butt back to the Kremlin.

Under trump’s watch Putin would not have dared to invade Ukraine


32 posted on 08/23/2022 6:56:20 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

It never would have happened if Trump had been President. He makes deals, not war.


33 posted on 08/23/2022 6:57:31 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest

The propaganda is anything that tells you what Putin wants you to believe. Remember his fictional reasons for invading? Like the non existant bio warfare center?


34 posted on 08/23/2022 6:57:51 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: hardspunned

Taiwan, ie the Republic of China, to give it its official name.

The RoC is on an island, is wealthy and heavily armed.

The PRC has no chance of conquering it today. Maybe in a few decades, but not today.


35 posted on 08/23/2022 7:00:03 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: dforest

And the deal would be that Putin would not invade Ukraine and in exchange, Putin doesn’t get his butt kicked.


36 posted on 08/23/2022 7:03:41 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Travis McGee; Ultra Sonic 007; House Atreides; escapefromboston; BobL; dforest; Chad C. Mulligan; ..
As Ultra Sonic 007 pointed out yesterday, the “National Republican Army” Wikipedia page didn't exist until August 22, 2022, created by those lovable Lefty Astroturfers and propagandists who run that agitprop factory.
37 posted on 08/23/2022 7:03:54 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

No matter how mendacious the fake news experts are it cannot go unnoticed forever that getting “help” from the World Police is practically a death sentence.

Anybody who takes on Goliath, and knocks him cold, is going to become very popular.


38 posted on 08/23/2022 7:06:56 AM PDT by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: Dick Vomer
The longer it takes Estonia (Eesti) to detain Natalia Vovk, the worse it looks for the West and the Ukraine.
39 posted on 08/23/2022 7:07:10 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Cronos

His reasons weren’t fictional. They were real and that is why the Minsk agreement that was never followed led to this.

Hate blinds people to truths. Trump would have tried to settle this. The Biden regime wanted war and that is what they got. The Biden regime even told you why they wanted war.

Did you even listen? It wasn’t about Ukraine. It was about using Ukraine to weaken Russia. Getting rid of Putin will just bring in a guy far more hard lined than Putin. So it wasn’t just about Putin, it was about weakening Russia, making them more vulnerable. That is why it is prolonged with money and weapons just to keep it going. Thing is more and more needless death in Ukraine. Very sad.

I think the LWO wants real war with Russia to force them into the LWO, but that will be a war nobody wins.


40 posted on 08/23/2022 7:13:56 AM PDT by dforest
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