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To: roving
February 20, 2022 - Munich

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Let me start by saying I appreciate and admire President Zelenskyy’s desire to join NATO. And one of, again, the founding principles of NATO is that each country must have the ability — unimpaired, unimpeded — to determine their own future, both in terms of their form of government and, in this case, whether they desire to be a member of NATO.

The dumb ho went to Europe and said dumb things about the Ukraine joining NATO.

Why do you think Russia attacked the Ukraine - after the mouthbreather who is VP signaled that it was OK for the Zel puppet to have NATO aspirations?

After they'd all been warned?

Looks to me like Russia punched the neocon bullies in Washington and London in the face, first.

13 posted on 08/18/2022 11:59:00 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil
Why do you think Russia attacked the Ukraine - after the mouthbreather who is VP signaled that it was OK for the Zel puppet to have NATO aspirations?

What kind of bumbling moron and monster do you have to be to believe that merely having aspirations--with no imminent threat, no chance of even joining due to the ongoing conflict in the Donbass--is justification for launching a war that has now lasted 7 months and has cost both sides tens of thousands of lives, including civilians?

18 posted on 08/19/2022 12:26:18 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: kiryandil

“The dumb ho went to Europe and said dumb things about the Ukraine joining NATO. Why do you think Russia attacked the Ukraine...?”

THE Ukraine?

Ukraine was a former Soviet republic (i.e., Ukraine SSR). At Russia’s insistence at the creation of the UN, both Ukraine and Belarus were given member nation status (thus, the Soviet Union had THREE votes in the UN).

THE Ukraine refers to a territory of Russia, especially pre-revolution.

With collapse of the USSR, Ukraine (no THE) became an independent and sovereign nation, clearly separate and distinct from Russia. Only pro-Russia water-carriers say “THE Ukraine,” because they — just like Putin — deny Ukraine is an independent and sovereign nation, but rather is a part of Russia.


32 posted on 08/20/2022 6:46:06 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: kiryandil

Looks like the pro-Kamala water carriers have showed up on the thread...


33 posted on 08/20/2022 6:48:16 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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